This may be of some interest to someone. b-f 3.0.14 has been successfully modified to install the Hurd tarball (a primative form of base??.tgz) - Philip Charles; 39a Paterson St., Dunedin, New Zealand; +64 3 4882818 Mobile 025 267 9420. I sell GNU/Linux CDs. See http://www.copyleft.co.nz philipc@copyleft.co.nz - preferred. philipc@debian.org