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Input on package thermometer (Was ... long ago: package thermometer improvements)


I just notice that the discussion is quite aged (two years) but finally I
found a quite easy mechanism to implement the GIS package thermometer for
all Blends.  If you run the script available under


with the command line option 'debian-gis' on alioth you get all data
needed for the Debian GIS package thermometer[1] (as well as the Ubuntu
version - please tell me whether those Ubuntu releases might be
sufficient or you prefer other releases listed as well).

I attached a gzipped output of

   gis-thermometer.sh debian-gis

to this mail to give you a quick overview about the data.

What is left to do is some wrapper to turn this into a web page -
perhaps in parallel to the existing tasks and bugs pages of the web
sentinel.  So I would write a Genshi template and a Python wrapper
around the query to finalise this if you agree with this procedure.

The only thing that need to be adopted from Debian GIS team is the way
you are specifying your not yet packaged target software.  I have no
idea in what way you do thie inside the GIS thermometer but I'd
recommend to follow other Blends techniques.  The best way would be to
inject a packaging skeleton into VCS.  This is parsed and injected into
UDD and thus can be easily used inside the query.  Finally it is a
preparation for your intended goal to package the software.  I checked
that it takes about three minutes to fill in some skeleton debina/control,
debian/changelog and debian/copyright (machine readable, only the first
License field is parsed - no need for completing everything).  If you
do not have this three minutes per package I doubt that there will be
any serious work done in the next year and so it can be easily droped
from your todo list to do it at some point in time later.  In case your
agree to this prospective package in VCS method simply mentioning the
binary package name inside the tasks file is sufficient to let all
tools (inclusive the to be finished thermometer) sufficiently.

Just let me know if you like this idea and I'll go on with the Genshi
template to create Debian Blends thermometer (+ optional Ubuntu
thermometer, probably even enhanced to "other derivatives" thermometer).

Kind regards


[1] http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org/debiangis-status.html

On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 08:43:22AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 08:29:57AM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote:
> > > What do you mean by "missing products"?
> > 
> > Still not packaged in any form. It works as a hook to remember possible
> > interesting products to add to the current software stack,
> As I said this is implemented in the long tasks pages.  As a suggestion
> for the short list as in the thermometer I could imagine to add a one
> line entry per missing (we call it prospective which sounds more like
> "we intend to work on it") package and link to the longer paragraph on
> the tasks page which usually contains more relevant information like
> "packaging stuff in Vcs", "WNPP", "inofficial packages somewhere",
> "package in new queue" or whatever.
> > > Well, the target audience for the thermomenter is the team who is
> > > working on the packages.  While the tasks pages are more user centric
> > > and the bugs pages are focussing just on the bugs I clearly intend to
> > > support those developers - and I want it for all Blends.
> > > 
> > 
> > Definitively yes. It would be of interest for us and many other.
> > A Debconf or GSoC goal?
> DebConf!  It is to less work for a real GSoC project and I would like to
> get it implemented before next autumn.  Moreover this seems to be a topic
> which is not grabbed by students (I just have tried in two previous years
> where some more stuff needed implementation).
> > In the first case I would be happy to 
> > cooperate about that.
> Great.
> See you at DebConf
>        Andreas. 
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