Currently web sentinel on Alioth is not up to date (Was: UDD scripts hammering the DB?)

[Andreas Tille <tille@debian.org>]

[for those on the list who might wonder why the web sentinel pages on
 {blends,debian-med}.alioth.debian.org are not updated any more: the
 pages generating code was hammering UDD with a lot of queries and was
 disabled by DSA.]

On Tue, Dec 28, 2010 at 05:00:30PM -0500, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Dec 2010, Andreas Tille wrote:
> > > I just wondered if there was any progress in bringing Debian science
> > > blends "online" since last generation date is 12th of Dec.
> > I'm working on reducing the number of queries in a limited time frame
> > (to avoid conflicts with family holidays) and can confirm that I'm
> > making some progress with the UDD queries.  I'm now more or less able to
> > make one large query per task which reduces the number of queries by
> > about two orders of magnitude.  So the work is promissing but
> > non-functional and thus I did not yet commited the code to SVN.
> sounds great!
>
> > If you really need updated Debian Science pages you might either look at
> > blends.debian.net/science, rsync these pages to alioth (I did not
> ha -- I didn't know that my unspoken desire is somewhat dealt with
> already -- I could have all blends/tasks pages available from somewhat
> more uniform location, e.g.:
> 
> http://blends.debian.net/science/tasks/
> http://blends.debian.net/debian-med/tasks/
> instead of 
> http://debian-med.alioth.debian.org/tasks/

Yes.  This was announced at some point in time on the relevant mainling
lists but I did not made to much noise about it because this is the
place where I'm testing all my code and thus it might be broken for some
intermediate period.
 
> cool ;)  so, are those @ blends.debian.net always up-to-date or that is just
> temporarily?  Why those locations are not primary?

The page should be online always.  However:
  - It is not maintained by DSA (thus there is higher potential that the
    machine might be broken).
  - UDD is updated only once a day and not twice a day so the resulting
    pages might show some delay in certain circumstances
  - Once I'm testing the new code the pages might be broken or at least
    different from what should be shown
 
> > realised this plan to rather work on the new code) or simply redirect
> > from Alioth to blends.debian.net temporarily.  We just need to stop
> > redirection / rsyncing once I start testing the new code (hopefully
> > at beginning of new year).
> 
> I will better take a passive side -- I can direct people to
> blends.debian.net for now whenever that comes desired/necessary

As long as you tell them explicitely that these are not the official
pages and there is no guarantee that these will be broken this is fine.

Kind regards

    Andreas.

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