Fwd: Re: CDD World Domination @Debconf4

["C. Gatzemeier" <c.gatzemeier@tu-bs.de>]

(Forward original post and reply to the list, because I prevously hit the 
wrong "reply" button)

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it's great to see a nice world domination plan, very good. ;-)

I'd like to give some little feedback, just in case you appreceate it.


>     - Release process
>        - (add your name here)

I suppose this is about "the swirl" release scripts, Martin  Loschwitz posted 
about on debian-desktop?



>     - Technical infrastructure
>        - Kalfa
>        - Petter


When it comes to improving the configuration management and debconf I'd again 
like to suggest to have a look at Config4GNU. Not to adopt the implementation 
but maybe the concepts behind it to improve the situation. Config4GNU is 
rather lacking active developers right now, and would need some interested 
people to pick it up, nevertheless it is out there and a lot of thought went 
into it.  It drawed on many ideas, including many from debconf, and added 
some really advanageous I think. Most notably the concept of separately 
maintainable meta-config definition files and optional UI meta data. CFG 
supports different frontends like debconf, additionally it supports modular 
backends and allows fine grained setting aware config upgrades and 
no-conficts by design (guaranteed config file authority).
http://freedesktop.org/Software/CFG


>     - Categorization work and package selection
>        - Enrico

I guess that includes your work on debtags you also wrote about. A question I 
had was if it could be allowed to select/install different CDDs 
simultaniously. For example you choose debian-edu (server) and also want the 
(not yet existing) debian-firewall/gateway customisation on the same machine. 
Well a better (less likely to conflict) example might be debian-desktop and 
debian-gateway or another "lower level" customization that could prossibly be 
shared between CDDs.


Kind Regards,
Christian


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Subject: Re: CDD World Domination @Debconf4
Date: Wednesday 26 May 2004 23:36
From: Cosimo Alfarano <kalfa@bononia.it>
To: "C. Gatzemeier" <c.gatzemeier@tu-bs.de>
Cc: Enrico Zini <zinie@cs.unibo.it>


Hi,
 Enrico forwared me your email, supposing it was intended to the list,
and sent privately by mistake, and particularly because I can answer to

something better then him:
> it's great to see a nice world domination plan, very good. ;-)
>
> I'd like to give some little feedback, just in case you appreceate it.

Thanks, in the case this mail was inteded public, could you send it to the
list, so we can answer to the whole d-custom public, please? :)

In the meantime I'll answer to paragraphs concerning me.

> >     - Release process
> >        - (add your name here)
>
> I suppose this is about "the swirl" release scripts, Martin  Loschwitz
> posted about on debian-desktop?

No, more about how a CDD should be released.
Questions like "may a CDD base itself on testing?"
"may a CDD use a backported sofwtare in an easy way without risk to
break anything?" "how to easy up non-in-Stable packages during CDD
release process?" and so on.

Depending on what issues will raised up during debconf, I'll probably
put my name here.

Anyway, I'll look for Marting's scripts, they could be usefull though

> >     - Technical infrastructure
>
> When it comes to improving the configuration management and debconf I'd
> again like to suggest to have look at Config4GNU. Not to adopt the
> implementation

[...]

This very issue will be discussed here at the DebConf, hopefully :)
I hope here there is some guys able to explain why cfengine, or why
config4gnu or whatever.

If you have something to say, you could write it down on the list,
maybe.


thanks for you feedback,
	cosimo.