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Re: python-django_1.8.18-1~bpo8+1_amd64.changes REJECTED



On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:45:35AM +0000, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On May 25, 2017 6:53:49 AM EDT, Adrian Bunk <bunk@debian.org> wrote:
> >On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:53:47AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> >>...
> >> The problem described here is that if we have Django reverse
> >dependencies
> >> in backports (I don't know if we have any), right now they have been
> >> tested/validated with Django 1.7.x (stable) or 1.8.x
> >(jessie-backports)
> >> and switching to 1.10.x will likely break some of those packages that
> >> were relying on deprecated features that got removed in 1.9.x and
> >1.10.x.
> >>...
> >
> >python-django 1.10 is supposed to have Breaks against all package
> >versions that are or ever were in jessie or jessie-backports and
> >that don't work with 1.10
> >
> >This would ensure that the user has working packages after
> >  apt-get -t jessie-backports install python-django
> >
> >And it would also en passant give a list of rdeps that additionally 
> >have to be backported when 1.10 gets backported.
> 
> 
> That's irrelevant to the problem of 1.10 in backports.
> 
> The entire point of Django is Django applications.  It's impossible for non-trivial applications to go from Django 1.7 to 1.10 without modification.  This is almost all external to the archive and invisible to Debian.

That's different from the problem of rdeps in Debian Raphael was describing.

> If we care about this user code (and I think we should), then Django 1.10 in backports is a non-starter.  If we don't care about user code then the python-django package isn't something I would ever recommend.

The actual conclusion for what you are saying is that no Django feature 
release other than the one that will be shipped in the next stable 
release of Debian should be uploaded to backports.

In other words, Django 1.8 should not have been in backports at any time.

> Scott K

cu
Adrian

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