Re: Backports vs Pinning Lenny
Ter, 2007-05-08 às 02:59 +0200, Micha Lenk escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> Luis Matos wrote:
> > Using the porposed scheme for package versions should let users to
> > upgrade from sarge-bpo to etch-bpo to lenny-bpo easily wich is very
> > good.
>
> ... so what's the point in doing any Debian Release any more?
there is a point, of course ...
someone needs backports for some reason ... why shouldn't they just
upgrade?
>
> Supporting the users in weird or at least exceptional environments will
> lead to outrageous efforts for supporting their setup. Who will support
> these users in favour of keeping the real Debian suites in shape?
>
Using backports you can improve user's experience and make debian move
trough the release cycle, when needed.
> > i know several software work from lenny to etch and even sarge, but it's
> > not easy to use. So, is this case what i propose is that bpo should use
> > the lenny version ( the people who submit, just submits the same version
> > that is in lenny). In the future, with bpo integrated in debian's
> > archives, we can have the same file for lenny and bpo.
>
> I'd strongly vote against integrating bpo into Debian as an official
> supported suite. This simply makes stuff more complicated than neccessary.
maybe not ... backports are a great service, why should keep them
unofficial?
>
> Regarding all the (sublimal) requests for uploads of packages newer than
> Etch I would even vote for (technically enfoced) stopping any further
> uploads to sarge-backports for packages with higher version than
> available in Etch. Why should we bother to supply newer software in
> sarge-backports than in Etch? Or again: What's the point of releasing Etch?
>
you *have* to supply new updates into sarge-bpo because there are people
still running sarge. Upgrading some services are a real pita, so people
stick with it as long as they can or they only update in a certain time
frame.
You want to make these people to have security holes, for instance?
> I think we should encourage the users to upgrade to our latest stable
> release (Etch) instead of providing any new package uploads (other than
> security fixes) in sarge-backports.
Yes, you should encorage them ... not force them. I agree with the
security issues.
about etch's upgrades ... it is very cool for etch to have releases of
some software who has nice new features ... or that was included in
debian but not in etch's time.
This makes etch a better release with more user satisfaction.
>
> Just my thoughts...
> Micha
mine too... Luis
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