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Re: Running Pure Debian on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?



Raspbian's pretty close to pure Debian I think, and has more hardware
drivers for the VC4, GPIO, Bluetooth.  They made millions of them, the
software's pretty good.  Try omxplayer and notice how busy the CPU
isn't.  That's because it's utilizing the GPU in about the optimum
way.  I have a Rock64 and smplayer on that uses the hardware
acceleration too.  No, the Raspbian smplayer (16.11.0 (revision 8242))
isn't doing the acceleration right yet, it'll probably catch up.
Actually on the Rock it's the same version smplayer but it's arm64
Debian.  Only omxplayer is fast I think.  And if you read the man page
you can write little scripts like

#!/bin/bash
omxplayer -o local --win 448,272,1472,1040 $1

To use it with your choice of window size and audio output.  No
screenshots though.

I have 2 Pis running Raspbian, and one running arm64 Debian using
https://people.debian.org/~stapelberg/raspberrypi3/ with updates and
upgrades.  I think I prefer the Raspbian.  I had to try 64 bit, but,
nah, it's not a significant improvement in this case.  For one thing
64 bit is bigger and the Pi can only use 1 GB of RAM.

I'd maybe consider the Rockpro64 https://www.pine64.org/?page_id=61454
if I didn't already have a full house.  But the software is in its
infancy, a lot doesn't work right yet and the documentation's in
Chinese.  My Rock64's still experimental, not something I use everyday
like the Pis.  I don't use a big computer at all, just Pis.


On 8/14/18, Rogério Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br> wrote:
> Hi, people.
>
> I tried to send the message below more than 12h ago, but it seems to
> have been lost, so I am resending it via another relay.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help,
>
> Rogério.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Rogério Brito <rbrito@ime.usp.br>
> Date: Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 6:59 AM
> Subject: Running Pure Debian on the Raspberry Pi 3B+?
> To: debian-arm@lists.debian.org
>
>
> Dear people,
>
> I am thinking of getting a Raspberry Pi 3B+ and, from what I read, it is
> mostly supported by the upstream Linux kernel, but I still have doubts
> about
> what I may be losing or not, compared to Raspbian.
>
> >From what I read, there are some binary blobs needed for the video to work
> (and I would like to use it with Kodi, to play some videos and to, perhaps,
> act as a NAS or a place where I can use to save some files via NFS when a
> USB HD is attached to it).
>
> Regarding hardware support, are there many customizations in Raspbian that
> are not in Debian?
>
> Regarding video, are the players available in Debian (mpv, vlc, ffplay
> etc.)
> able to take advantage of the hardware acceleration, if all the needed
> blobs
> are in place?  I would be tracking the testing distribution (as I do with
> all my other computers).
>
> Also, when people talk about the performance of the raspberry pi and
> videos,
> they always talk about the hardware decoding being used (which, I suppose,
> is about H.264 video) and that gives no idea of how powerful the hardware
> is
> (or is not).
>
> To get an idea, what about the software encoding with NEON or whatever SIMD
> that the is used with arm64? How are the numbers that one can get with,
> say,
> the following command (with or without raspbian)?
>
>     mplayer -nosound -vo null -benchmark -endpos 200
> big_buck_bunny_480p_stereo.ogg
>
> (The video available from:
> http://download.blender.org/peach/bigbuckbunny_movies/)
>
> Thanks in advance for any help with understanding both running a pure
> Debian
> distribution on the Raspberry Pi and understanding its performance (so that
> I can compare with other hardware before I go on and buy one of these small
> board computers).
>
>
> Thanks once again,
>
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>
>


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