I know several people here have managed to talk to human beings at CCC about the status of the computers they ordered, or, incredibly enough, have actually received them. Does anyone have a good number to call? I have called 1-613-788-6000 a few times, and then been transferred to voice mail, which seem to be a dead end... Thanks, -- David Welton http://www.efn.org/~davidw Debian GNU/Linux - www.debian.org