Re: amd64 installation
Hi Alexander:
I need a large disk space during the computations.
As already reported preliminarily, I started positively with pure 64 (testing
installer), aimed at 32 chroot. I'll resume the installation later today.
Hardware was recognized (and etherned was OK on nviadia, not on ethernet or
fast ethernet) but the hard step today is X. I hope to issue another positive
report.
regards
francesco pietra
On Tuesday 23 May 2006 00:11, Alexander Samad wrote:
> On Mon, May 22, 2006 at 04:49:18PM +0200, Francesco Pietra wrote:
> > I forgot a key point: my move to 64 is essentially to double the floating
> > point for the package mpqc, which i use on 32 but it is available as a
> > debian package for the testing. To write papers, sending mail or
> > navigating on internet i would have not thought to 64bit.
>
> why not use the 32 userland with the 64 kernel, which should allow you
> to install and run your 64 bit app - with the appropiate libraries of
> course, best of both worlds
>
> > Hi Craig:
> >
> > I decided to follow your 2nd suggestion (for a non expert like me) to
> > install permanently ubuntu 5.10, albeit with much regret because I had
> > always loved the debian environment, people in the first place. I
> > downloaded the ubuntu *.iso and wrote the ISO 9660 but I forgot to check
> > before the list of hardware on ubuntu. Well, the Tyan below (Tyan K8WE
> > S2895 nvidia nForce pro 2200 and 2050) is not listed as supported; only
> > older Tyans. Try nonetheless? Doubtuful with kernel 2.6.12.6 of ubuntu
> > 5.10
> >
> > On the other hand, Goswin answered my mail below advising (for my
> > particular needs and capability) to avoid debian <testing> and go to
> > <sarge>. Again a rather old kernel and thus probably no support to the
> > Tyan mainboard.
> >
> > The alternative is trying with the debian testing installer (may be by
> > paving the way through a ubuntu amd64 live CD??) but I strongly rely on
> > Goswin's indications. But this seems to me the only viable route.
> >
> > Maybe I am overcomplicating the problem but I halted for a while any
> > trial until I exit my present confusion.
> >
> > I hope not to bother all you too much
> >
> > regards
> > francesco pietra
> >
> > On Monday 22 May 2006 08:06, Craig Hagerman wrote:
> > > When I did a fresh install of Debian amd64 (couple years ago?) I
> > > booted from a live CD (ubuntu has a 64 bit live CD) and did everything
> > > from there. ie. partition the disk, create a chroot to where you want
> > > the deb root partition, install debootstrap etc and go from there.
> > >
> > > If you are that hesitant about doing an installation yourself, why
> > > don't you just download a copy of Ubuntu for amd64. I have computers
> > > running both. the differences are minor, but the installation is
> > > completely painless with Ubuntu, whereas I have never been able to say
> > > that about Debian. With Ubuntu the installation is pretty automated
> > > and lots of things just work ... things that I have to fight to get
> > > working in Debian (realplayer anyone?).
> > >
> > > Craig
> > >
> > > On 5/22/06, Francesco Pietra <frapietra@alice.it> wrote:
> > > > Hi all:
> > > > I have followed with particular attention in the last few days all
> > > > issues on this list related to amd64 debian installation. Just
> > > > because I have now finally everything ready for a fresh installation
> > > > on a fresh ready workstation equipped with Tyan K8WE S2895 (bearing
> > > > video card Pixelview 6600 256M DDR DVI and a scsi card for external
> > > > devices), a couple of dual amd64 opteron, and a couple of 300GB SATA
> > > > HD.
> > > >
> > > > For the benefit of poor guys like me who rarely carry out software
> > > > installations, could you please check my projected route, and its
> > > > sequence, for suitability/correctness?
> > > >
> > > > 1) Start with debian installer
> > > > Debian testing amd64 Bin-1/ISO9660 [93 MB] (CD-ROM waiting on my
> > > > machine) burned from
> > > > debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso [93.4 MB]
> > > > as downloaded yesterday from
> > > > http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
> > > >
> > > > 2)Follow substantially a netinstall according to Roberto's howto
> > > > http://haydn.debian.org/~intero-guest/debian-amd64-howto.html
> > > >
> > > > 3)Establish raid1. To this regard, I am at "Today 21:19:28"
> > > > directions by Alexander Siek. I understand Alexander has positively
> > > > answered all (nearly all?) criticism by Goswin. However, I must
> > > > confess that i use a pc with debian testing/unstable but I never
> > > > established a raid before. Therefore, I only hope to be able to
> > > > follow Alexander's indications but it would be better for me to read
> > > > before some general instructions as to establish a raid1. I have none
> > > > yet.
> > > >
> > > > 4)Install 32b applications into a chroot as indicated in both
> > > > Roberto's howto above and, for what I need, ie not sound) in
> > > > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/356
> > > > without, however, following step
> > > > 1.4) You also need a link to your 32bit linker in the /lib path:
> > > > $ cd /lib
> > > > $ ln -s /var/sid-386-chroot/lib/ld-linux.so.2 ld-linux.so.2
> > > > because I read somewhere that installed libraries are linked per se.
> > > >
> > > > I hope the kernel provided supports my mainboard and I wish myself
> > > > good luck. But there cannot be good luck without some guidance.
> > > > Thanks a lot
> > > >
> > > > francesco pietra
> > > >
> > > >
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