Thanks, everyone, for your comments! On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 06:56:36PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > On Mon, Jan 31, 2005 at 04:04:14PM -0800, Larry Doolittle wrote: > > > > Today, for instance, I see netbase is ready to upgrade, from > > version 4.19 to version 4.20. The trouble is, looking at > > packages.debian.org, the changelog only goes up to 4.19. > > It seems to be there now? Maybe they're just slow in updating > it? I guess. Yes, I see it there now, too. My point is that there was a window where the update was available but the documentation was not. My first and best reason to run Linux (since 1992) is reliability. If there isn't a perfect match between the update and packages.debian.org, that isn't the primary source of information about updates, and I want to know what is. > > Another particular example is kernel-image-2.6.10-9-amd64-k8, > > which doesn't even show up on packages.debian.org. > > This is one of the excpetion of packages that are first uploaded > to the amd64 archive and only later to the debian archive. It's > stuck in NEW for some time now. Can anyone elaborate on this comment? Who controls and/or where is the master list of such packages, and how can we mere users find out what's going on with them? To the several people who pointed me to apt-listchanges: yes, that sure looks like what I want. I don't mind downloading new .deb files first, as long as I can find out what's in them before installing. It looks (from the man page) like apt-listchanges is designed to slide into apt-get somehow. Google found a few pages suggesting that connection is supposed to happen automagically in the install, but it didn't for me. Well, maybe it tried: right after it ran apt-listbugs (also new on my system [*], I ran into suggestions to run it as well as apt-listchanges), I do see the line Reading changelogs... Done but nothing came out. You can probably tell I haven't used Debian for very long: only about six months. I hope it's the last distribution I have to learn! - Larry [*] It sure would be nice if all these system tools were written in the same language. Pulling in apt-listbugs had the side effect of pulling in ruby and friends. Do we really need a copy of every scripting language on the planet just to administer a debian system?
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