I see the same thing with gcc-3.2,gcc-3.3- binutils must be broken -unstable with 2.4.23pre7 src i get 'make boot' fails with: -o vmlinux ld: final link failed: bad value for ref: http://lists.debian.org/debian-alpha/2003/debian-alpha-200310/msg00051.html -- mel kravitz <melk@switchpwr.com> switching power inc