Re: Maybe alpha should be in hamm? (was: Re: Only m68k and i386 in hamm?)
I've just done an initial install on a Alpha machine that was
originally setup with RH 4.2. I upgraded the machine to RH 5.0. I
then reworked and did the initial install of Debian hamm on another
partition and am now duel-booting. I have consideral experience with
Debian-i386, but do not consider myself an expert by any means.
Perhaps an above-average user.
I'd say you have a way to go. The base disks are way out of date. It
took considerable hacking to finally get the system current.
Not all packages in the hamm/binary-alpha will install. There are
several packages which depend on ldso which is not available to
install.
I guess it depends on how close you really are to the i386 release. I
think for someone knowledgable, and a bit of work, an alpha release
could be possible.
I am running the Debian/hamm now on my system. My biggest problem is
getting the required passwork server running which was built on
libc5 (which is not available under hamm).
>Bdale Garbee <bdale@gag.com> writes:
>> I'd like to propose that if a non-i386 architecture has a reasonable
>> installation process and base archive, plus .deb's for all packages
>> marked as 'standard' or higher in the i386 tree (modulo obvious
>> exceptions like lilo), that it be considered ready for inclusion in
>> a release.
>>
>> Thoughts?
>
>As one of maybe two alpha-porters who have never taken their alpha
>through the Debian installation process (my alpha has been running
>some form of Debian/Alpha for more than a year, and thus predates the
>install disks), I am wretchedly unqualified to speak to the first part
>of your suggestion.
>
>However, I think we could just about achieve everything marked
>standard or higher. Heck, we may already and not realize it. <Quick
>quinn-diff run> And, in fact, I find that we basically have. The
>following would need to be dealt with:
>
>net/lpr_5.9-26.1.dsc [standard:libc6]
>editors/emacs19_19.34-16.dsc [standard:libc6:X]
>base/gzip_1.2.4-27.dsc [required:libc6]
>base/ld.so_1.9.7-1.dsc [required:n/a]
>devel/cvs_1.9.26-3.dsc [standard:libc6]
>base/kbd_0.95-12.dsc [required:libc6]
>base/shadow_970616-1.1.dsc [required:libc6]
>x11/xfree86_3.3.2-3.dsc [standard:libc6:X]
>admin/cron_3.0pl1-44.dsc [important:libc6]
>base/e2fsprogs_1.10-14.dsc [required:libc6]
>utils/sharutils_4.2-5.dsc [standard:libc6]
>shells/tcsh_6.07.02-7.dsc [standard:libc6]
>admin/at_3.1.8-2.1.dsc [important:libc6]
>libs/glibc_2.0.7pre1-4.dsc [required:libc6]
>base/procps_1.2.7-1.dsc [required:libc6:X]
>devel/egcs_1.0.2-0.7.dsc [standard:libc6]
>devel/gdb_4.16.98-1.dsc [standard:libc6]
>editors/emacs_19.34-13.dsc [standard:libc6:X]
>
>I just did emacs19 today, ld.so doesn't apply, we're actually using a
>more up-to-date egcs, gdb4.17 has actually been released so 2.0
>shouldn't go out the door with a snapshot, and except for
>glibc---which I've been having some problems with---the rest are
>easily doable.
>
>(Parenthetically, I think we should swap lprng for lpr, I'm not sure
>why cvs is standard, and emacs_19.34 should be removed from the
>archive)
>
>> But on the debian-alpha list, I see some flailing since we don't
>> have a solid definition of what needs to be present for a release to
>> be considered ready, and without such a goal, it's hard to focus and
>> concentrate effort on what needs to be done.
>
>A very good point. It's hard to know when you've achieved something
>if you haven't picked out a measuring stick beforehand.
>
>So what do people think of the status of the boot disks?
>
>Mike.
>
>
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