Re: Debian Accessibility
The best virtualization software in my opinion is Qemu, especially wrt sound
thus speech.
Cheers,
Didier
On 30/12/2021 19:15, Jordan Livesey wrote:
> I have tried one time but was unable to get speech output and was using a
> virtual machine due to my machine being a secure boot system, the debian
> installer is my favorite text based installer but I like how features are being
> borrowed from it, I've yet to do a debian installation video on youtube since
> I've done others
>
> On Thu, Dec 30, 2021 at 6:13 PM Didier Spaier <didier@slint.fr
> <mailto:didier@slint.fr>> wrote:
>
> The Slint installer borrows at least one feature from the Debian installer: the
> way sound cards are probed just after booting, to find a working one (thanks
> Samuel).
>
> More generally, sharing ideas and features between distribution benefit users of
> all of them. Trying to find which one is the best is pointless as it depends on
> the users' needs and use cases, in other words their requirements.
>
> Cheers,
> Didier
>
> On 30/12/2021 18:56, Jordan Livesey wrote:
> > Another thing, about the installer, even if you don’t know how to get
> speech on,
> > this is for anyone new, they can just press the down arrow 5 times on the boot
> > menu on an refi system, plus on supported systems, like my old Lenovo, you
> hear
> > 2 beeps, I believe the current project leader is also visually impaired, if I
> > could, I could back port orca41 since I’ve had no trouble using it
> >
> >> On 30 Dec 2021, at 17:52, D.J.J. Ring, Jr. <n1ea@arrl.net
> <mailto:n1ea@arrl.net>
> >> <mailto:n1ea@arrl.net <mailto:n1ea@arrl.net>>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello,friendly list, this discussion was inside another discussion and
> perhaps
> >> partly because of my poor choice of words, was thought to be a distro flame
> >> war, but that was never my intention or desire.
> >>
> >> I want to make a point about Accessibility in general and Accessibility
> >> in Debian in particular. Nothing I say should be taken as an offense to any
> >> of the developers who have done an amazing job in making Linux, and Debian in
> >> particular accessible.
> >>
> >> My two favorite Linux distros are Debian and Slint. I have some favorable
> >> comments about how robust Slackware is opposed to Debian - or most other
> >> distributions - but that's way off topic. Suffice it to say, that being a
> >> Debian is the only way to go type person, I've been very impressed with the
> >> robustness of Slackware, especially the accessible International version,
> Slint.
> >>
> >> Now on topic.
> >>
> >> Part of accessibility is having accessibility features known about by users
> >> and have them easily used. Debian does this very well in their installer
> >> which speaks to blind or visually impaired users, and provides visually
> >> impaired users with a high contrast graphical installer. Excellent.
> >>
> >> My original post - which I take responsibility of not wording as well as I
> >> should have mentioned "ease of use". I was attempting both to tell the
> members
> >> of this list, which are both users and developers about how Slint based on
> >> Slackwware has succeeded in having almost all of it's accessibility features
> >> accessible to the new non-technical user. As the blind that go to the
> >> museums say: "What's good of having guided tour headphones available in the
> >> manager's office when the only notice of them is a written notice we
> cannot see?"
> >>
> >> None of the accessibility features in Slint require any user effort other
> than
> >> running a script to use. With Debian you first have to know these features
> >> even exist, then you have to install them. In Slint, thanks to Didier
> Spaier's
> >> work these features are documented in an accessible console document. Of
> >> course, his work depends in part on your wonderful work on brltty and other
> >> features, again, this is not an invitation to a distro war, it's just about
> >> accessibility features being accessible and my recognizing these features
> have
> >> been wonderfully achieved in Slint.
> >>
> >> If such wonderful achievements aren't at least mentioned, some or all of them
> >> will probably never be brought into Debian to improve accessibility.Certainly
> >> as Samuel pointed out, all these features are available in Debian, but
> >> unfortunately it takes a bit of digging to find out about them.
> >>
> >> Again, thanks to everyone for their efforts in achieving accessibility of
> >> Linux. This always was a team effort of many selfless persons world-wide, and
> >> for that I am personally grateful and appreciative.
> >>
> >> David
> >
>
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