Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian
On 11/8/2019 5:42 PM, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> http://hypra.fr
>
> English release not completely up-to-date, but the most important is here.
>
>
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>
> Le 08/11/2019 à 17:39, mattias a écrit :
>> website?
>>
>> On 2019-11-08 17:29, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
>>> A company who sells computers with Debian, from a universality access
>>> point of view. It means: not needed to use commandlinie (but
>>> possible) MATE desktop, Orca with as nice as possible voice according
>>> to the language, Iris OCR to read paper documents, Compiz for visual
>>> settings if the person needs negative or color filter or
>>> magnification or whatever, etc.
>>>
>>> All they provide is with 12 support hours (among 5 hours training, 3
>>> pure support hours and initial customizations, help to import data,
>>> mail accounts, help to set the initial voice parameters, braille, etc).
>>>
>>> Any dev are free, as much as possible in upstream projects (Mate,
>>> Mozilla, Compiz, GTK/Qt/Muter, etc).
>>>
>>> Another plan exists with: 89E/month subscription, 399 security
>>> deposit, 199 setup, and you have a computer, support, training,
>>> unlimited and without minimum duration of subscription. Always rely
>>> on Debian. Free updates.
>>>
>>> The purpose: making everybody access to the computer, and making
>>> disable people the most standalone possible via a good computer usage
>>> without technical skills (but opened for those who have them).
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>>> Le 08/11/2019 à 17:14, mattias a écrit :
>>>> what is hypra?
>>>>
>>>> On 2019-11-08 17:10, MENGUAL Jean-Philippe wrote:
>>>>> Hi Devin,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry for advertisment in advance, but:
>>>>>
>>>>> > I would definitely recommend the Mac. You’ll still be able to run
>>>>> free software, in an environment like > Unix. Optionally, if you
>>>>> use the command line, check out https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr
>>>>> <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hypra machines do this too. And will always do.
>>>>>
>>>>> > It isn’t as powerful as Fenrir or Speak, but it gets the job done
>>>>> well. Also, the graphical utilities that come with the Mac, Safari,
>>>>> Mail, text-edit, are great also. There is spell checking,
>>>>> autocorrect, text replacement, and AppleScripting and Automation,
>>>>> all configurable, throughout the system, not just in > your word
>>>>> processor, all accessible with VoiceOver.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hypra has Firefox, Thunderbird, pluma, Libreoffice, accessible all
>>>>> right. And all the Debian catalog.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> > Of course, there are current bugs. In Safari, you hear “insertion
>>>>> point at (nil)” at the end of every paragraph unless you use the
>>>>> arrow keys, and not VoiceOver navigation, to read. These bugs are
>>>>> usually fixed within the year of a version release, and the
>>>>> releases are often much better than the public beta versions.
>>>>>
>>>>> > I seriously hope that Linux stays accessible, because I’d hate to
>>>>> see free software let us down so majorly. But, volunteers are not
>>>>> held to a standard of accessibility, so I will not be shocked if
>>>>> all we have left in Linux is the command line.
>>>>>
>>>>> What I mean here is not doiing free advertisment, but making you
>>>>> aware of this: buy Mac, pay about 1000 euros or much more, learn
>>>>> yourself, hope there are not regressions, use only Apple compatible
>>>>> accesories, try reporting but Apple does not listen always (said
>>>>> one of their community leader). Buy Hypra about 2000 euros, get an
>>>>> out-of-the-box accessible Debian, a warranty it will stay
>>>>> accessible through updates, free updates, persons you can talk to,
>>>>> in order to request for things and getting support and training,
>>>>> fund the free software dev to avoid such dark future as described
>>>>> on the thread. You can connect most accessories (even Apple ones
>>>>> despite many complexities).
>>>>> In other words, if you use free software, why changing it for Mac
>>>>> whereas you can pay nearly the same for a full Linux accessible,
>>>>> warranty and with human support? So far there were few warranties,
>>>>> hence people going to typical computers, now there is, so free
>>>>> software supporters should pay to fund this effort instead of
>>>>> paying for Apple, whose effort is not the same after Jobs' death.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
Assuming that you still work at Hypra, I don't think that it is
acceptable to use your debian.org e-mail to promote your work place.
Clearly, those e-mail should be removed because they fall under spam or
promotional e-mails.
--
John Doe
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