Re: Future of Accessibility in Debian

[chrys@linux-a11y.org]

Howdy,
> Optionally, if you use the command line, check out  
> https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
FYI: Fenrir should run on OSX as well using the PTY Terminal emulation  
backend :).

cheers chrys
Zitat von Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@gmail.com>:

> I would definitely recommend the Mac. You’ll still be able to run  
> free software, in an environment like Unix. Optionally, if you use  
> the command line, check out https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr  
> <https://github.com/tspivey/tdsr>
>
> It isn’t as powerful as Fenrir or Speak, but it gets the job done  
> well. Also, the graphical utilities that come with the Mac, Safari,  
> Mail, text-edit, are great also. There is spell checking,  
> autocorrect, text replacement, and AppleScripting and Automation,  
> all configurable, throughout the system, not just in your word  
> processor, all accessible with VoiceOver.
>
> Of course, there are current bugs. In Safari, you hear “insertion  
> point at (nil)” at the end of every paragraph unless you use the  
> arrow keys, and not VoiceOver navigation, to read. These bugs are  
> usually fixed within the year of a version release, and the releases  
> are often much better than the public beta versions.
>
> I seriously hope that Linux stays accessible, because I’d hate to  
> see free software let us down so majorly. But, volunteers are not  
> held to a standard of accessibility, so I will not be shocked if all  
> we have left in Linux is the command line.
>
> > On Nov 7, 2019, at 6:21 PM, thomasw@fastmail.cn wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > I have followed the discussion on the orca list lately and the  
> > conflicts around GTK 4 accessibility. I guess without getting into  
> > the drama of it all, I would just like to ask those who are  
> > knowledgeable if they think we will have Linux accessibility going  
> > into the future. I guess the issue seems to be that patches are  
> > being created for what upstream thinks is a broken system in some  
> > ways and it sounds like things like keyboard snooping could cause  
> > problems in the future. I honestly don't know enough to understand  
> > whether its broken from a design standpoint, however, it at least  
> > lets me use the computer.
> > I am not a skilled enough developer to understand all this yet but  
> > I rely on accessibility software for my job. I guess I would just  
> > like as honest as an answer as possible. If people think  
> > accessibility is going to be removed or key parts of the needed  
> > infrastructure, I see no other option than to buy a Mac now so that  
> > I can continue to operate the computer in the future. I did notice  
> > some comments that proposed removing ATK entirely which obviously  
> > would leave me dead in the water.. Ultimately, if the end is  
> > approaching, I would like to purchase a Mac  as soon as possible  
> > since I will have to relearn the computer and a new screen reader  
> > (VoiceOver and would like as smooth a transition as possible.
> > I love using free software and hope to continue doing so, however,  
> > I ultimately have to do what is necessary to keep my job so I can  
> > support myself.
> > Thanks for any information and i hope those here can understand my  
> > concerns and honestly just not knowing what to do based on not  
> > having the technical knowledge to understand entirely what is  
> > happening in the different upstream packages.