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Re: Re : Re: Add a package to a liveCD?



MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Thu 13 Aug 2015 16:10:38 +0200, a écrit :
> 
> ----- Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> a écrit :
> > MENGUAL Jean-Philippe, le Thu 13 Aug 2015 15:50:05 +0200, a écrit :
> > > > > b) Including enabling of accessibility in the tasksel seems a problem. First because it implies changing several ones, while the stuff is transversal.
> > > > 
> > > > The end-of-time goal is that it is transversal. But ATM it is completely
> > > > useless to enable it on desktop where it will just not work. That's why
> > > > it is currently not enabled in all tasksels for installed systems.
> > > > That's the same for liveCDs: there is no point in making the image
> > > > bigger if it's useless.
> > > 
> > > Well... the image should not be much bigger.
> > 
> > Installing gnome-orca, atk, qt-at-spi, etc. will make it bigger.
> 
> Yes but they are already installed, because shipped in tasksel for MATE and GNOME.

It seems we're looping over in our discussion.

I'm not talking about the MATE/Gnome liveCD images.

I'm talking about the other images, and that we don't want to have the
packages installed there yet.  And the decision to have them installed
there will not be specific to liveCD.

> > > It does not add anything, it only passes gsettings commands to enable what is needed in the dconf and others.
> > 
> > Actually I'll probably propose at debconf to just always enable these
> > bits for installed systems too, so that only orca needs to be started.
> > That just solves the problem.
> 
> Excellent. And it does not create problems I think.

It does expose all the desktops to the potential bugs in the
accessibility stack (even when disabled).  That's, however, something
I think we want to do at some point, and I believe we can try doing it
now.

> The last point will be just installing brltty on the livecd and seeing the conditions of its activation on the livecd and installed system.
> 
> The point will be, if accepted, to know wether we wait for Debian stretch or if we include this in next debian 8.

There is no way it can be included in Jessie.  Only tiny changes can be
made to Jessie, now that it is released.

Samuel


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