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Re: gnome-orca_3.0.4-1_i386.changes ACCEPTED into experimental



Hi.  Yes, I'm conpletely blind.  The only thing living with me
is my cat, so getting someone sighted to look at the screen isn't an option.
Could you point me to info on how to get a screen shot in Gnome?

          Kenny

On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 07:41:26PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Are you fully blind? If you are, I think if you could show us some
> screenshot of the gnome starting, it'd help. I am blind but I can see
> some ligghts, and I had noted, when I tried at-spi, that at the
> starting, gnome seemed to display something, then when I pressed Escape
> or Enter, she screen became black, then gnome seemed to appear. I guess
> some message appeared, I'm unable to know or read it. Maybe you have a
> similar problem at the gnome starting, i.e. a message, then if you press
> a key, it goes on. Indeed I think at-spi1 and 2 are in conflict. But
> it's known I think. Mario mentioned at-spi2 breaks the GUI.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> 
> 
> Le lundi 01 août 2011 à 11:14 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit :
> > Hi.  Currently, sid has some gnome 3 packages and the rest are gnome 2.30.
> > Using the corba based at-spi (at-spi 1.0) I had no problems with orca 3.0.
> > My problem only started when I updated to at-spi 2.0.  I can return to at-spi 1.0 easily, but I thought I'd
> > try at-spi 2.0 to get an idea of it's usability.
> > Based on what I've read on other lists, I expected some issues but it should have provided some feedback.
> > The fact I get nothing makes me think I'm either missing a package or a config option.
> > 
> >           Kenny
> > 
> > On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 03:13:20PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > > Hi Kenny,
> > > 
> > > Your feedback ip very interesting. Actually I use ibmtts and, waiting
> > > for building speech-dispatcher (package hard to do for me due to various
> > > patches, etc.), I don't use pico. I installed so orca3, with ibmtts. But
> > > no at-spi2. I still use gnome2 (gnome-panel). I try in a VM. Do you use
> > > gnome3 or gnome2? Here I didn't install at-spi2. It works, although
> > > there're a lot of problems I think: very slow, not reactive, on
> > > Iceweasel I have some problems to really use it, ... Then I had a
> > > "conflict" with wicd I spent time to fix. So it's absolutely not
> > > satisfying for me, but it works. Maybe for you, if you use gnome2, it'd
> > > work in better conditions. I wait and see, I'll try updating, but still
> > > not gnome3 as it's not mandatory.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Le lundi 01 août 2011 à 02:51 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit :
> > > > Hi.  This is my first impression after attempting to switch to at-spi2.
> > > > It looks like both at-spi1 and at-spi 2 have been started during login.
> > > > I hear "welcome to orca" and then nothing.  I get no more feedback from my gnome session
> > > > My first guess is the at-spi1 and at-spi 2 regestries are conflicting.
> > > > When I do aptitude -q remove at-spi
> > > > to remove the at-spi 1.0, I notice dasher and gok still depend on the at-spi package.
> > > > After doing this, I still got nothing from my gnome session.  After searching for at-spi,
> > > > I noticed the libatk-adaptor package wasn't installed.
> > > >  I installed it with no change.  All I get now is the welcome to orca message and then nothing.
> > > > Ps shows at-spi2 and orca are running.  As far as I can tell, things still work.  I was able to
> > > > press alt-f2 and start a gnome-terminal.  Ps shows the gnome-terminal, but no feedback from orca.
> > > > At this point, I'm out of ideas to try, so I figure I should post my results and
> > > > hope others have suggestions.  I have found alternatives for everything I do in gnome,
> > > > so I'm willing to keep trying with at-spi2.
> > > > 
> > > >           Kenny
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 



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