Re: speakup in Debian kernel and installer
Hi. No, you would add speakup_soft to /etc/modules
You will need to install the espeakup package as well.
This will cause the system to boot up with software speech. You will need to press keypad enter
when speech starts if your system boots to a gdm login. If you don't, you will end up with a lot of speech output you might not want to hear.
On my Sid/Squeeze box, the speakup modules are in
/lib/modules/2.6.32-5-686/kernel/drivers/staging/speakup
If your backported kernel doesn't have them, you could probably build them by installing the speakup-source package from Squeeze.
One advantage to speakup for me is cost. A hardware synth costs 1/10 the price of a braille display.
Speakup will work fine along with brltty as long as the hardware is on different ports.
Kenny
On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 03:48:38PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for these very good explanations which help me understand better
> things, as reading user guide online didn't help me about this. In my
> case, as for many users I think, I don't have any hardware synthetiser.
> So I have to use a soft solution. Not too problematic if it starts after
> cfdisk. So 3 questions:
> 1. Does it mean I've to do espeak.synth=name of the soft (or soft is an
> option)? e.g. speakup.synth=espeak? If yes, how can I configure this on
> a Debian (on line "kernel" in menu.lst (grub 0.97)?
> 2. You said that espeak is supported. What about other soft such as
> voxin (viavoice)? What soft synthetisers supported currently?
> 3. What are kernel modules for (if I use soft solution)? Do I need? I
> read that only modules for linux 2.6.26 are available (aptitude search
> on lenny, squeeze and sid). I use a 2.6.32 backported kernel. What about
> compatibility?
>
> Thanks for these answers. I really hope to understand and test because
> I'm sure it can be an alternate for emacspeak or emacs-el I don't like
> very much,, not suitable for any user I think. Besides very useful as
> you say to debug gnome crashes... (I do this in braille, but a
> synthetiser solution is good for others).
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
>
>
> Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 08:05 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit :
> > Hi. The idea is to get access to the system as early as possible during boot.
> > To do this, speakup is a set of kernel modules. Since software speech is a recent addition, and speakup is active before audio has
> > been configured, most users use a hardware synth for early access. In this context, drivers are the modules that support a specific hardware synth.
> > Currently, my system boots with speakup using an Accent SA attached to com1. This allows me to have access to the fsck process if it runs.
> > If I chose to use the software synth driver and espeakup instead, I wouldn't get access to the system until after the fsck.
> >
> > I believe the Squeeze installer will have support for software speech, but haven't seen any recent updates on the status.
> > Because I own a hardware synth, speakup has allowed me to install Debian independently since I first started using Linux.
> > It also allows me to debug Gnome crashes as long as I can attach to the process from a text console.
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 12:52:27PM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I will look at this website again. Last time I had started fastly then
> > > let the questions, because I had not understood the global idea. The
> > > explanations confused me, especially about drivers. But I could try
> > > again (with a bit more time). That's why waiting for finding more
> > > understandable info for me, I asked how happent a test as someone tried.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> > >
> > >
> > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 04:47 -0500, Kenny Hitt a écrit :
> > > > Hi. Have you visited linux-speakup.org? That is the official web site for speakup.
> > > > Most of your questions should be answered there.
> > > >
> > > > Kenny
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 24, 2010 at 04:08:24AM +0200, Jean-Philippe MENGUAL wrote:
> > > > > Hi Sam,
> > > > >
> > > > > As you know I attend to promote linux as accessibility tool. That's why
> > > > > I try some solutions, even these I don't use myself daily (speech in
> > > > > particular). That's also why I tried gnome-orca 2.30 even if I had to
> > > > > install testing package on my stable (Gnome 2.22) and I suspect it
> > > > > causes issues.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've wanted to test speakup for a long time but never understood how it
> > > > > works. As you tested, can you explain to me what has to be entered.
> > > > > speakup is included, for example, in LFS livecd and Debian, seems the
> > > > > only solution in such contexts. I heard of drivers... but what drivers?
> > > > > How can I know those supported? Is there a relationship with kernel as I
> > > > > see in this treead (LFS livecd has an older kernel (2008))?
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually, do you have a tutorial about this point to know what I've to
> > > > > enter, what are available drivers, what's the role of the kernel's
> > > > > release.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Jean-Philippe MENGUAL
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Le mardi 24 août 2010 à 03:11 +0200, Samuel Thibault a écrit :
> > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben Hutchings, le Tue 24 Aug 2010 00:35:03 +0100, a écrit :
> > > > > > > [Please include debian-kernel or me in replies; I'm not subscribed to
> > > > > > > -accessibility.]
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I haven't seen any bug reports regarding speakup drivers included in the
> > > > > > > Linux 2.6.32 kernel packages or testing versions of the installer.
> > > > > > > However I haven't seen any positive reports either. Are they working
> > > > > > > properly?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've tried the daily build yesterday, and it worked just fine.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Samuel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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