Re: yelp in Gnome 2.28
Thanks for the tip! I had not found any current (newer than 2008)
discussion on the net about webkit accessibility. However, until this
important work is done, it's important for developers to know to hold
off on switching to webkit. For example, Ubuntu wrote the new
software-center app with webkit, and therefore the blind can't use it.
Not only that, they've let gnome-app-install fall into disrepair, so
that the blind can't even use the old app.
I think that Debian and Ubunt should have a check box for accepting
new core packages that everyone uses, and which show up in the menus:
does it work with a screen reader? It kills me that Ubuntu wrote a
whole new app to replace gnome-app-install based on webkit. They're
distro will have this accessibility black-mark until webkit is fixed.
I'll sign up on the gnome-accessibility list, and try to stay informed.
Bill
On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Kenny Hitt <kenny@hittsjunk.net> wrote:
> Hi. Be careful when you assume.
> Both the Orca developers and webkit developers are working
> on accessibility. The plan is to have it
> finished by the release of Gnome 3.0.
> If you want to learn more, there's a thread on the gnome-accessibility list.
>
> Kenny
>
> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 05:25:58PM -0500, Bill Cox wrote:
>> An Orca script wont do the trick. Webkit is not accessible in Linux
>> by screen readers, period. Based on the total lack of discussion I
>> see on the webkit mailing list, I assume webkit will remain
>> non-accessible for years.
>>
>> Therefore, all major Gnome apps must continue to use gecko rather than
>> webkit. For Vinux (which derives from Debian and Ubuntu), we're
>> sticking to the older version of yelp, which still works fine.
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2010 at 4:55 PM, Kenny Hitt <kenny@hittsjunk.net> wrote:
>> > Hi. As people who run Gnome 2.28 know, yelp is currently not accessible
>> > in Debian.
>> > The problem is Debian decided to switch to the webkit backend before it was
>> > accessible. I've filed a bug in Debian (571121)
>> >
>> > Upstream yelp still uses gecko, but the Debian Gnome maintainer says
>> > the gecko backend for yelp isn't buildable currently. I'm at the point I need
>> > advice. The best answer would be to replace the current yelp with the
>> > current upstream. The other option is for someone in Debian to write an
>> > Orca script. This would only give some access to yelp, but it would be better
>> > than the current situation.
>> >
>> > I don't know enough to build the yelp package or write the script, so I'm
>> > posting here.
>> >
>> > Kenny
>> >
>> >
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