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Re: Mac Quadra



Hi,

>> >Might be worth a try, no clue myself.
>
>> I thought you were supporting all of m68k machines?? :-) Get a clue, then. And 
>> please point people asking questions you can't answer to the proper resources.
>
>Get lost and stop that private war of yours.

Ok, that was a cheap shot (noticed the ":-)", by the way?). 

But my arguments stand: if you don't know what you are talking about (quoting:
'no clue myself'), get a clue instead of confusing people. Otherwise, please
shut the hell up.
For the record: this was the second of your less than helpful comments on Mac
installation. I recommended on the Mac ML to take Debian questions here, but
I'll probably reverse that again.

>> >The most that can happen is that your data will be gone, but I haven
>> >heard of anyone realy losing any.
>> 
>> That can happen on any computer when repartitioning disks. And you will lose
>> data on the partitions that are affected by repartitioning (never heard about
>> that??). 
>
>I heard of stupid people doing "format c:" on their PC, but that has
>nothing to do with the Linux installation process. Stupidity is OS independant.

No need to be overly stupid there. And your data will be lost without
formatting if you changed the partitioning (the partitions will be marked
invalid...). OK, the bytes are still present on the disk, but you can't read
them through the filesystem anymore. 

>For Amiga Partitioning under Linux is dangerous and need at least a
>reboot afterwards. Partitioning under AmigaOS is save and doesnt need
>the reboot. I think the same can be said for Mac, where the fdisk is
>also beta.

Well, I'm sure the MkLinux guys would be amused to hear your judgement on 
pdisk. The version I used isn't beta, it's been in use for a year or so. 

Either way, if the Amiga fdisk needs a reboot, someone forgot to force
rereading the partition tables after write. There's an ioctl for that.

The only reason I would recommend using Apple's tool (which is _very_ buggy, it
takes one or two retries per partition you want to change) is the GUI. And
that's not because I like it (I hate using the mouse to define partition
boundaries, that's going to make random numbers of your partitions) but because 
the average Mac user is very unhappy without a mouse. 

>But since he wants to KEEP his Mac partition on that disk, I assume he 
>already got it working.

Some vendors sell disks with Mac filesystems on them, spanning the whole disk,
others sell a very simple partitioning tool that doesn't permit to change
partition types or names. So the existence of a Mac partition on the disk
doesn't tell anything about what this particular user has available. Macs are 
_very_ amusing.

But this thread has outlived its useful lifetime ... I rest my case.

	Michael


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