also sprach Michael Banck <mbanck@debian.org> [2014-08-08 20:11 +0200]: > I disagree: this would not only affect how we raise the money, but > also impact how (a small part of) DebConf is run, so I think we > should ask for general comments. Sure, don't get me wrong. Comments are great and generally improve things. But we should try to avoid lengthy discussion over whether it should be done. We know that a job fair would be a first at DebConf, we know that this is going to rub people the wrong way and we know that we will probably not arrive at consensus on dc-team over it — just to name one example. On that basis, we should as a team decide what we want, and if we want a job fair, then the question ought to be "we will have one, here is what we think, please let us know what you think", rather than "do you think a job fair is a good idea". I am *not* trying to segregate us from dc-team or argue *against* them. I am simply trying to stay clear of the swamp of lengthy discussions, because they burn so much time, and it's much harder afterwards to actually discern what should be done, or to consolidate any decisions. It can work in Debian without time frames (though I wish we wouldn't do it as much as we do it), but DebConf operates on a strict timeline, so I believe some more assertive approach is needed towards incorporating the wider community into decisions that ultimately affect those doing the actual work on site more than others. Sure, a job fair will have an effect on all attendees, and I am certain there will be some who'll spit on our heads for the idea and for commercialising the conference. But if it's contained in a room and voluntary, then the only real effect is on us who have to solve the logistics and carry the desks. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <madduck@debconf.org> @martinkrafft : :' : DebConf orga team `. `'` `- DebConf14: Portland, OR, USA: http://debconf14.debconf.org DebConf15: Heidelberg, Germany: http://debconf15.debconf.org
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