Re: [Debconf-video] Next Meeting - Debconf Approaches (Wednesday 24 May)
On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 02:24:42AM +0200, Nicolas Dandrimont wrote:
> * Wouter Verhelst <w@uter.be> [2017-05-30 09:02:52 +0200]:
>
> > On Tue, May 23, 2017 at 08:49:55AM +0200, Kyle Robbertze wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > This is a reminder about the meeting on *Wednesday 24 May at 18:00
> > > UTC*, which may well be tomorrow depending on your timezone.
> > >
> > > Agenda is here:
> > >
> > > https://storm.debian.net/shared/pyV1TzOgN7FZhL69N5OwPwg_pcUC2hoa2aGRuzSW3Ax
> >
> > So, during that meeting I agreed to look into cameras. I met up with a
> > friend last friday who's a professional cameraman, and we came up with
> > three candidates. Prices are from a local (web)shop in Belgium. They
> > don't necessarily have to be the prices we'll end up paying, but I added
> > them to the list for comparison. Two were suggested by Carl, one my
> > friend came up with:
> >
> > - JVC GY-HM200E: tested by CCC VOC. Has a network link and builtin RTMP
> > server, can be directly hooked up to Voctomix according to VOC. €2600,
> > but due to the network link, we wouldn't need the blackmagic cards, so
> > that's less money in the end. Bulky and heavy, though (so shipping
> > costs will be higher): 1.55kg, 13.5x19x26.3cm
> > - Sony PXW-X70: large sensor, therefore it has good low-light
> > capabilities. Good zoom lens. €2600, 1.4kg, 12.1x10.4x27.4cm. This
> > will likely produce the best picture out of the three, but would end
> > up being the most expensive option. Whether that is an important
> > consideration is up for discussion...
> > - Canon XA35: small, cheap, lightweight. €2100, 0.77kg, 10.9x8.4x18.2cm.
> > Technically it is not necessarily the best choice, but it is
> > considerably cheaper than the other two, and (due to lower shipping
> > costs) will remain so.
> >
> > My friend suggested contacting a local company to see if I can get one
> > of each for a week or so to test them. I think that's a sensible
> > suggestion, but would like to not have to do that by myself ;-)
>
> I think the case we will put the cameras in will outweigh them by some margin
> anyway, so I don't think 800 grams difference per camera is that big of a deal.
> Our big case weighs around 20kg all included.
It's not just about the weight; there is also the fact that the Canon is
much smaller, too. If six canons fit in a single box, but six sony's do
not, you have one less box to ship.
(of course, if that's not possible, then that makes near as no
difference -- but that's one of the reasons why we should have them
tested)
> I'm not sure if you can keep two RTMP streams synchronized for live mixing?
> While it's an interesting feature I'm not entirely sure we should focus on
> that: I believe c3voc uses SDI in prod, not the RTMP feed from their cameras.
Ah, yes, point. Didn't think of that.
It's something we could ask the C3 people though, I'm sure. At any rate,
the JVC camera also supports SDI itself, so if we can't get the RTMP to
work, it's not a big loss.
It's just something I saw on the c3voc website, and looked interesting.
I do agree that it's not critical though.
> There's a bunch of A/V shops in the Bastille neighborhood, near my workplace, I
> can call to see whether they could arrange a tryout of some models. One of the
> shops I know (from drooling at their window when passing by) has at least the
> Sony model in stock.
That sounds like a good plan. I'd be happy to drive to Paris for a
weekend to help with that.
Alternatively, the pro camera shop that my friend pointed out is "Kamera
Express": https://www.kamera-express.be. They're in Antwerp, I can go
there, pick up the cameras, drive to Paris with them. Slight detour, but
doable. They're large enough that are pretty sure to they have all three
models (and more too), and should also have most of them on stock much
of the time.
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