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Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems




On 03/05/17 12:21, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:58:43AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the
>> news,
> 
> It is one-sided information from someone asking for money,
> repeated in the news.
> 
>> an Australian, no evidence of a criminal record or anything,
>> unable to enter Canada due to an outbreak of bureaucracy.
> 
> All the "how hard we tried to follow the law" whining and "Stop one was 
> meant to be Canada!" story sounds less convincing when you consider that 
> after 6 months in the US they tried to cross the border 2 hours before 
> his stay in the US became illegal.
> 

Well, wouldn't that be a perfectly reasonable course of action?

> If I understand the story correctly, he was (ab)using a tourist visa for 
> living in the US.
> 

Did you see any source that states it was a tourist visa?

How do you define "abusing" in the context of a visa?  You can abuse a
person, an animal or whatever, but a visa is just a creation of bureaucracy.

> What did he answer if he was asked standard questions like 
> "Country of Residence" or "Occupation"?
> 
> If he claimed to reside in the US even though his US visa doesn't
> allow that, he admitted violating the terms of his US visa.
> 
> If he claimed to reside in Australia even though the stamps in his 
> passport said otherwise, he was caught lying by the Canadians who
> questioned him.
> 
> - They "had set forth a plan that would bring us all over the western
>   Hemisphere for the [5 year] duration of his Visa".
> - He had no right to do any paid work during these 5 years.
> - US$ 8k seems to be a huge amount of money for them.
> If the story they told the Canadians sounded as fishy as the story
> in the fundraiser, I am not surprised about the refused entry.
> 
>> I'm not suggesting anybody should give money to this cause, but it makes
>> me wonder if Australians are having difficulties getting in, could some
>> people from other parts of the world be facing trouble?
>> ...
> 
> s/Australians/Australians who (ab)use a tourist visa for living in the US/
> 
> The basic travel requirements for a tourist visa to Canada [1] include:
>   convince an immigration officer that you have ties — such as a job, 
>   home, financial assets or family — that will take you back to your 
>   home country
> 
> That's the kind of basic requirements your Australian guy would not
> be able to fulfill, but that shouldn't be a problem for the average
> debconf participant.
> 


Well anybody who is self employed, in the middle of changing jobs
between now and DebConf, recently graduated or otherwise doesn't fit the
definition of "normal" used by a bureaucrat could also have difficulty
answering those questions.

Regards,

Daniel



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