Re: [Debconf-team] Canadian border problems
On 03/05/17 12:21, Adrian Bunk wrote:
> On Tue, May 02, 2017 at 09:58:43AM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
>>
>> I couldn't believe it when I saw this[1] but it is appearing in the
>> news,
>
> It is one-sided information from someone asking for money,
> repeated in the news.
>
>> an Australian, no evidence of a criminal record or anything,
>> unable to enter Canada due to an outbreak of bureaucracy.
>
> All the "how hard we tried to follow the law" whining and "Stop one was
> meant to be Canada!" story sounds less convincing when you consider that
> after 6 months in the US they tried to cross the border 2 hours before
> his stay in the US became illegal.
>
Well, wouldn't that be a perfectly reasonable course of action?
> If I understand the story correctly, he was (ab)using a tourist visa for
> living in the US.
>
Did you see any source that states it was a tourist visa?
How do you define "abusing" in the context of a visa? You can abuse a
person, an animal or whatever, but a visa is just a creation of bureaucracy.
> What did he answer if he was asked standard questions like
> "Country of Residence" or "Occupation"?
>
> If he claimed to reside in the US even though his US visa doesn't
> allow that, he admitted violating the terms of his US visa.
>
> If he claimed to reside in Australia even though the stamps in his
> passport said otherwise, he was caught lying by the Canadians who
> questioned him.
>
> - They "had set forth a plan that would bring us all over the western
> Hemisphere for the [5 year] duration of his Visa".
> - He had no right to do any paid work during these 5 years.
> - US$ 8k seems to be a huge amount of money for them.
> If the story they told the Canadians sounded as fishy as the story
> in the fundraiser, I am not surprised about the refused entry.
>
>> I'm not suggesting anybody should give money to this cause, but it makes
>> me wonder if Australians are having difficulties getting in, could some
>> people from other parts of the world be facing trouble?
>> ...
>
> s/Australians/Australians who (ab)use a tourist visa for living in the US/
>
> The basic travel requirements for a tourist visa to Canada [1] include:
> convince an immigration officer that you have ties — such as a job,
> home, financial assets or family — that will take you back to your
> home country
>
> That's the kind of basic requirements your Australian guy would not
> be able to fulfill, but that shouldn't be a problem for the average
> debconf participant.
>
Well anybody who is self employed, in the middle of changing jobs
between now and DebConf, recently graduated or otherwise doesn't fit the
definition of "normal" used by a bureaucrat could also have difficulty
answering those questions.
Regards,
Daniel
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