shirish शिरीष dijo [Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 08:55:05PM +0530]: > >> During DebConf16 some ppl put some effort to rephrase parts of the code > >> of conduct. We'd like to gather opinions on this rephrasing in the hope > >> to get the new version, or an amended version, adopted. > > > > I forgot to mention: during the last meeting, we decided on a date > > before which we need to come to an agreement on this document: may 15th > > Hi all, > > The draft is somewhat long, could it be shortened otherwise people > will sign it just as they sign any terms of service (i.e. blindly) . > The real 'meat' of the new CoC as I understand it are the following - > (...) Thanks for pointing this out, Shirish! I stand by your point: The new CoC is just too long. I saw Martin's reply to this, refering to how Creative Commons implements an answer for a similar problem space — If we want this level of detail and verbosity, items should somehow be separated into sections. But that leads back to the same place: It gets us a document that won't be fully read by anybody. I understand the reasoning for expanding our Debian CoC into this... But I feel this is just too much. There are IMO too many examples and repetition. I feel a much more succint document will be much more useful, even if it does not spell out in detail all bad interactions — In this regard, Holger's mail is spot on. If we try to spell out too much, we will be cornered into contradictions. I'm sorry I don't have a "positive" way of critizing this (I'm not proposing, I'm just saying "this is not what I'd say that works"). I'm currently too busy to properly think and contribute to discussion.
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