Re: [Debconf-team] DebConf17 bids - DebConf Committee
On Wed, Jan 27, 2016 at 10:48:26AM +1300, martin f krafft wrote:
> also sprach Tiago Bortoletto Vaz <tiago@debian.org> [2016-01-27 03:56 +1300]:
> > > I was trying to not diverge too much away from the process. But
> > > if there's no strong objection to skipping directly to the Bid
> > > Decision Meeting, that works for me too!
> >
> > As far as I can remember this was a tragic experience.
>
> It was made tragic by some, yes. It came quite as a surprise to most
> that we even had to have a second meeting in the last two years.
>
> > If a meeting before the decision meeting has no many points to
> > discuss, then it will be quick and no precious time from committee
> > will be spent.
>
> If we have the necessary discipline to do this, then sure, having
> a point of synchronisation is never wrong. Still, questions and team
> introductions should probably still happen on the mailing list
> before the meeting, don't you think?
Yes, I think. But that never happens.
> And it should go without saying that all committee members are
> familiar with the bids and the mailing list discussions by the time
> the meeting commences.
> Let's try not to enslave us to protocols too much. Several times in
> the past and especially in the last two years, a bid decision could
> have been made during (or even before) the status meeting, but we
> shunned it for the sake of sticking to "the procedure". Of course
> it's important to be fair to all teams, but let's not ignore the
> signs and rule out the possibility to fast-track the decision when
> it's quite clear that not much will change in the two weeks between
> meetings.
>
> An earlier decision and one less meeting puts the winning team on
> track faster, and wastes less time of the committee and the other
> teams, who should be encouraged to try again next year. Sometimes it
> might even make sense to cast a decision for the next two years!
>
> Keep in mind: the committee's decision is a guess at who'll be able
> to pull off a good conference. It's not a guarantee for a good
> conference, and we should not treat it as the holy grail. As always,
> a decision made earlier is better than taking too long to make
> a perfect decision. Once a decision is made, bid plans turn into
> a concrete, tangible challenge and eventually into a successful
> conference…
If I write two more emails on this thread I'll be spending more time
than joining a bid status meeting. So it doesn't make any sense to keep
arguing. My opinion remains the same. The committe decides.
Bests,
--
tiago
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