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Re: [Debconf-team] Minutes meeting with Le Camp, Thursday 25-10-2012




I don't want to get into a discussion about all the details, I just want to query the possibilities for them to assist in finding other local sponsors, as it is mentioned below. Did they give examples of contacts they have in the canton for example? I see that one of the smaller hostels in Interlaken received cantonal funding for expansion, it would be interesting to know if Le Camp has ever had direct funding or subsidies.

The other thing is did you have any feeling that such assistance (even just a contact list) would come before the deadline?

Thanks for getting this summary out so quickly for everyone to reflect on
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Sent from my Android phone with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.

Michele Cane <michele.cane@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi all,

We just came back from the meeting with Mr. Pianaro and below you can
find the minutes also available at:
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/Meetings/20121025

Please do not start a new infinite thread about them. Let's wait for the
Interlaken meeting (tomorrow) and during the BSP in Le Camp starting on
Saturday 27th morning together with the other present people we will
update the comparison on the wiki:
http://wiki.debconf.org/wiki/DebConf13/VenueComparison

Please note that Le Camp is waiting for an answer on Monday 29th.

Cheers,
Michele and Luca



= Meeting Le Camp 20121025 (heiserhorn and gismo) =

== General discussion ==
* They likes the project.
* They do not like the idea of other venues investigation at this time
of the discussion.
* Many contract changes over time.
* They think they understand the problem we could have faced.
* Optic fibre investment (100k CHF).
* Changing general conditions needs "Conseil de fondation" as it was
done in the past.
* They think the contract is already very precise.
* We can take the 34 CHF meal option for everyone everyday.
* We can send 1 day before that there are N people less to dinner (to
avoid wasting).
* Tolerance for planned meals vs. effective meals is within 10-20 people
(announced the day before).
* They will try to check with nearby organisations for sponsorship.

== Answers to our questions ==
* Final date for contract signing
2012-10-22 (now next Monday)
* Possibility to shorten the contract to decrease its (high) price
(which we should anyway try to negot iate more)
Not possible with this contract. With another contract will be more
expensive (per day).
* Cancellation fee too high, based on a full-board price, while only
accommodation should be considered (the minimum amount to pay)
Conditions Générales #2
* Detailed deadlines for cancellation to be included in the contract
Will send Conditions Générales with the contract
* Cooking by ourselves option
No
* Effective meals
No
* Lunch option every day
OK (15600 CHF less)
* List of buildings
Condition Générales #3, but will send a more detailed version
* Costs list
Check the first offer in SVN
* No breakfast
No
* Accommodation only
No
* Recyclable glasses (like Paleo), so no beer bottle
Yes

Conditions Générales:
http://www.lecamp.ch/pdf/conditions.pdf



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