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Re: [Debconf-team] Outsourcing productions of T-Shirts & Co. (was: Bag costs)

Please try negotiating the prices, if you have the ability to do so.
In my experience the big vendors are quite comfortable giving a
perliminary discount offer, even this far in advance for a
hypothetical event. The prices in Latvia are negotiated down from
their normal pricelists already, so it would be only fair to have both
bids be on equal footing in that respect.

On 24 January 2012 10:17, Luca Capello <luca@pca.it> wrote:
> Hi there!
> NB, this is my opinion only and not the one of the Swiss team.
> On Mon, 23 Jan 2012 22:57:16 +0100, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> Oh, and for both bids: I'm not personally in that business anymore,
>> but remember it's repeatedly been cheaper to print shirts in Mexico
>> and ship them to Europe than to print them in Europe.   (just sayin')
> While I fully agree, I think that this is something to be considered
> *after* a bid has been chosen.  IMHO the rough budget should include all
> the costs for a full in-place setup, for a very simple reason: if things
> go wrong, you can always count on local entities.
> This how you should read the rough budget in the Swiss bid: prices there
> are the *maximum* amount we should pay.  For example: for travel
> sponsorship, I am quite sure that there will not be 150 persons landing
> in GVA and then taking the train to the venue.  And the same for people
> landing in ZRH, Europeans will probably come directly by train, if not
> for the beautiful landscapes ;-)
> And please also consider that no prices have been negotiated yet, which
> means that for example food and accommodation should be cheaper (not by
> orders of magnitude, but still cheaper).
> Thx, bye,
> Gismo / Luca
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