On Wed, 25 May 2011 21:15:33 +0000, Adnan Hodzic <adnan@foolcontrol.org> wrote: > Just as it is case with Debian with its .org being official stuff and > .net being unofficial we can do the same thing here. Not a problem if > you ask me. I'm starting to get pissed off with this. 1) we must not be seen to violate copyright knowingly. 2) the free sources have been pointed out _repeatedly_, and are of higher quality than anything I've seen from the non-free sources, for the map data at least - the POI data may be more detailed, but I refer you to point 1) Why is this so hard to understand? > I still believe what he did here is amazing... I agree, and I've pointed that out every time I've suggested alternative data sources. It is unacceptable for you all to be going "La La La, we're not listening" about the fact that the good work done is currently rendered useless by the illegal content. The site as it stands shouldn't even be on-line. Instead of wasting time further on this dead data, how about fixing any wrinkles on OSM so that its more complete around the venue? It's already better than the non-free probably copyright violating alternative anyway from what I can see, but there seem to be some gaps that would be best filled in by a local. For example, we've somehow got to this point without filling in the building of Banski Dvor (it was marked as a monument, but the outline had not been traced). Likewise, Hotel Bosnia had been traced in detail, but the outlines had not been marked as being a building, so it was not being rendered. Likewise the Crkva Hrista Spasitelja, had a node, but not an outline, so was not being rendered on the map either. These buildings all have distinctive outlines (well, all bar Banski Dvor) so will be useful for navigation to people arriving at the venue. If people had been doing something useful (i.e. updating OSM) instead of playing with poisoned toys, we would have an even better map around the venue than we already have -- as it is, we just have some more of this fruitless discussion. I've now fixed the things mentioned above, but it would be much better if someone that was familiar with the place did the tracing, rather than me making guesses from the Bing imagery. For instance, I've no idea if the buildings to the north of what I've marked as Banski Dvor are part of it, or not - they should probably be mapped anyway. Also, the oddly shaped building to the east of Banski Dvor that I just traced may need to be given a name, or tagged with its purpose. If the reason this has not been done already is because people were too timid, get hold of me on IRC (fil), and I'll talk you through the process. Cheers, Phil. -- |)| Philip Hands [+44 (0)20 8530 9560] http://www.hands.com/ |-| HANDS.COM Ltd. http://www.uk.debian.org/ |(| 10 Onslow Gardens, South Woodford, London E18 1NE ENGLAND
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