Re: [Debconf-team] report edinburgh
On Tue, Jul 04, 2006 at 09:53:47AM +0200, Andreas Schuldei wrote:
>
> Impressions
> ===========
> tall, old houses with stately, manorial look
> traffic on the other side of the road.
> lots of cobbled streets
> rain? - rain!
stones on the streets, taxis that fit wheelchairs, nice transportation system,
english english english
> Physicians
> ==========
> could not get in - film at 11?
>
> problems with accessibility: cobbled street at the
> weelchair entrance
>
> generic remarks:
> - most expensive option
> - seems to lack a natural place to meet or hang out in
Very centric, but no areas with grass. Right in front of a main street.
> Tiviot
> ======
>
> oldish place, a bit dark, used, partly worn, in
> other parts undergoing renovation, or intended renovation.
>
> flexible about cables and own installations
>
> many differently sized rooms:
> - two big ones (200-250ppl)
> - five (?) medium ones
Pictures will be available as soon as I upload them, at
www.pumuki.org/gallery/ -> 2006.07 Edinburgh
> cantina (100ppl, £6/meal (==8.29€)) available
>
> pub, run by the house (== not as inexpensive as we would wish)
>
> garden across the streat, which is no central or natural place to
> meet to hang out
It was more a square, then a garden. There is park close to the place, but is
a bit aside.
> seem to be reluctant to open 24h, which needs checking.
I am pretty sure the lady said it was not possible to get it longer than 11,
or 12. They can have some areas open for bar/canteen but they will not open
24h. Please, someone correct if wrong.
> Arts College
> ============
>
> middel old, used and parly worn (due to lots of exhibitions?) but
> less so then Tiviot, and light place.
> quite dusty.
Dusty due to an exhibition that just took place. It has removable walls and
the place can be arranged for big hacking areas. Also, the walls are white
which might not be as nice for hacking during sunny days. Big windows that can
be opened if it is too hot.
> Summary
> =======
>
> All these place do not have accommodation for the majority of
> people close by. That means that, in order to get the "debconf
> feeling", the social center of gravity would need to be moved
> from the accommodation (where it was in past years) to the
> talks/hack places. (This would be an experiement we have not
> attempted before, and while it is possible to succeed it would
> put the social ascpect of debconf in danger.)
Do not agree, if the place is like the ECA. It would change the center of
gravity, but not the destroy the social aspect of it.
> Debconf would then work like this: We would not provide network
> at the hostels so that people are encouraged to come to the
> conference venue all day. Food, talks, hacking and socializing
> would take place there. At the end of their individual
> work/party/conference day people would spread out over the
> surrounding hotels and hostels to their sleeping quarters. The
> distance to the hostels is most likely too long for footsore
> people to return to the conference/sleeping quarters several
> times per day.
As we discussed during your time in EDI, the walking distance from the hostals
to ECA seemed to be far shorted than that of the SJJ dormitory to the Cultural
Center. I was not in SJJ so i cannot compare, but there are 3 people who
seemed to agree at this point.
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