Summary of yesterday's Jabber/XMPP BoF
Dear DebConf community,
for those who did not attend yesterday's Jabber/XMPP BoF, here is the
not so short summary, mainly taken from:
https://pad.dc25.debconf.org/p/r.70e41ed993fc40036944a5224088e7ed
First, special thanks to Valhalla for taking live notes and to Lynn
for letting us use their computer for the large screen!
* State of Jabber/XMPP packages in trixie:
https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net/blog/2025/05/xmpp-debian-13-trixie-news.html
Seems to be accurate and complete, nobody complained.
* TODOs for post-trixie:
- ejabberd needs help! Esp. migrating build from rebar to rebar3, i.e.
dh-rebar needs to get support for that (ejabberd MUC: 2025-07-18
11:40:34 - badlop: here is the patch
https://gist.github.com/badlop/c895a5dd6b91e7d5c894744380482f51)
https://bugs.debian.org/1072724
- slixmpp uses the deprecated Python JID code in Debian, but we should
migrate to the official Rust library (`jid`). This will most likely
be done soon.
- SFS (stateless file sharing) bug fixes in dino-im for the first
point release 13.1 https://bugs.debian.org/1109505
- There is also a MUC related Dino bug
https://bugs.debian.org/1109505, but not yet confirmed or fixed
upstream, maybe for 13.2
* Nice to have web clients with probably high effort:
- Converse.js (JS) https://bugs.debian.org/807275
- Libervia web (Python, JS, and both combined: Brython, which is hard
to package reg. d/copyright) https://bugs.debian.org/725761
- Movim (PHP, JS) https://bugs.debian.org/891462
- Prose (Rust, JS) https://bugs.debian.org/1109503
* Other packages, maybe less challeging:
- eTURNal, an Erlang based alternative to coTURN with much better
logging, and easier to configure https://bugs.debian.org/1098697
* Snikket-like (https://snikket.org/) helper to install a good prosody
server for small self-hosting sites
- maybe just a metapackage with the dependecies, maybe an ansible
playbook (if strictly needed), even better it would be adding
debconf questions and/or changing the package defaults
- it is possible to add a certbot hook to make a default position for
the certificate that prosody can use, or we can use prosodyctl
insertcert (?) in the deploy-hooks of certbot
- first step would be to update
https://docs.trueelena.org/self_hosting/modern_xmpp_server/index.html
to trixie and then migrate it to some debian place
- debops already has some rules for prosody
- Jabber MUC for further discussions on this:
xmpp:xmpp-team@conference.debian.org?join
* Debian Jabber server (`@debian.org`) ideas:
- Run direct TLS over 443 to make it work in British trains and other
public wifis (DSA might be reluctant)
- Have our own biboumi instance at least for OFTC
- adding turn/stun for video calls
- have a wiki page (or a page on https://xmpp-team.pages.debian.net ?)
with a bit more details on what can be expected from the service
(video calls? biboumi?)
- further discussion in xmpp:rtc@conference.debian.org?join
We stopped here, because of `E_TIMEOUT` ;-)
Happy chatting, happy jabbering!
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