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Title: OAXACA
Hello,

sorry for sending this information late. I'll be sending mail by suggested areas (states). I bought a couple of books (just found them in spanish) and i'm suggesting in base of what they recommend more. For this state and some others, I'm taking the english text from ''Travel survival kit' of lonely planet  and from web pages, I link to some of them, from others I just take the text ;)

http://www.planeta.com/oaxaca.html - This is a great web page. Ron Mader (who lives in Oaxaca) hosts this website, and is the Latin America correspondent for Transitions Abroad.

http://www.mexperience.com/guide/colonial/oaxaca.htm - An excellent  and well organized site, it  is an independent website, not owned or operated by any government or travel company.

http://www.oaxaca-travel.com/guide/index.php?lang=us Also interesting. Juan Antonio Ruiz

We have a couple of 'official' sites but very bad ones, some of them are not in english, if you want to take a look:

http://www.gobiernodeoaxaca.gob.mx/web/index.php?option=com_content&task=section&id=6&Itemid=76 -

http://www.aoaxaca.com/oaini.php

http://www.visitmexico.com/wb2/


More questions? need information about some place?, be free to ask.

Greetings!
-gabriela

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OAXACA

('waHA-ka')

City and surroundings

average temp.: 18 C-64.40 F  (Rains tend to start during the months of  April thru November, but as with most monsoon areas, rains tend to be fierce and brief in the late afternoon, leaving the evenings dry and cooled off.)

transportation from Mexico City:
buses  from Terminal de Autobuses de Oriente (TAPO) $350 - $550 pesos (6 to 6:30 hrs) - ADO, ADO GL and UNO
airplains:  1,535.00 - 2,500.00 (1 hr.) - líneas azteca, aviacsa, mexicana de aviacion, aeromexico www.despegar.com.mx
1 peso = 10.62 dollars

The rugged sothern state of Oaxaca reaches to within just 250 km of Mexico City but, divided from central Mexico by ranks of hard-to-penetrate mountains, remains a whole world away in atsmosphere. It enjoys a slower, sunnier existence and somehow magical quality that has something to do with the rocky dry landscape, the remoteness, the bright southern light, the sparse population, and the high proportion of Indians, who are the driving force behind Oaxaca state's especialy fine handicrafts.

Oaxaca City has become a big travel destination, but remains beautiful, lively, artistic and colonial. Around the city, in the Central Valleys of Oaxaca, are thriving village markest ans spectacular ruins ofr pre-Hispanic Indians towns like Monte Alban and Yagul. On the Oaxaca coast, Mexico's newest megaresort is growing up on the lovely Bahias de Huatulco. Puerto Escondido and Puerto Angel are older beach spots which will probably always remain small-scale and more laid-back.

There's also enough Indian-inhabited back country, as far from Oaxaca city in culture and traveling time as Oaxaca is from Mexico City, to offer a lifetime's exploring- though initially you may get a cautious reception since the people have been driven to these retreats by centuries of conflict.


Interesting facts:

16  indigenous groups living in this state (there is not another state with such diversity), Zapotecos y Mixtecos (about 500,000 each), Mazatecos  y Mixes.

This area was given to Hernan Cortes after the Spanish Conquest, in return for his services to the Spanish Crown.   

Benito Juarez (called the Oaxaca's Lincoln), an indigenois zapoteca, the first liberal president of Mexico was born here, also Porfirio Diaz was born here, and he also was president (considered a dictator) from 1877 until the Mexican Revolution in 1910.

Oaxaca and Monte Alban were declared a world heritage site.

In Mitla you will find 'El Tule' , a 2,000-year-old living tree (58 metre circumference; 14 metre diameter; 42 metres high) http://www.planeta.com/ecotravel/mexico/oaxaca/tule.html


Recomended places:

Arqueological sites:

*  Monte Alban: was the capital city of the Zapotec nation, and one of the first and most populated Meso-American cities during its peak. It was founded in approximately 500 BC, flourishing until 750 AD. Located in the centre of the Oaxacan Valley, Monte Albán exercised political, economical and ideological control over other communities in the valley and surrounding mountains.

*  Mitla: The word Mitla or "Mictlan" comes from Náhuatl, which means "World of the Dead" or "Underworld". In Zapotec, it is called "Lyobaa", which means "Burial Ground". Aztecs named it "Mitlan" [World of the Dead] until it finally evolved to the Spanish version: Mitla. It was the second most important ceremonial centre after Monte Albán. was inhabited in the Classic period (100 to 650 AD), reaching its peak during the Post- Classic period (750 to 1521 AD).

*  Yagul: "Ya-gule" means "Dry Tree or Stick". It is the most important ballgame court of the Oaxacan region, and the second most important in Mesoamerica. It flourished as an urban centre after the fall of Monte Albán (800 AD). After a short period of abandonment, Yagul flourished again and became a city-state in the Valley of Oaxaca, which prevailed until shortly before the arrival of the Spanish.
Lambityeco:  it was occupied between 600 BC and 800 AD., reaching its peak from 700 to 750 AD, which coincides with the eventual desertion of Monte Albán.

*  Dainzú:  "hill of the cactus" in zapotec". Evidence of occupation from 750 BC until 1,000 AD. The most interesting point is a stone bas-relief gallery portraying ball players dressed in Pre-Hispanic garments, involved in violent activity. Four figures that are probably the Gods of Fire are another sight worth seeing.

Oaxaca City

Zocalo y alameda. Zocalo is the geographical and social heart of Oaxaca. Shady, traffic-free and lined with cafes and restaurantes, it's the perfect place to relax and watch the city go by. The adjacent Alameda, also traffic free but without cafes, is another popular localgathering place.

http://www.mexperience.com/guide/colonial/oaxaca.htm#KeyAtt

Accomodation in Oaxaca city

*  Bottom end most places in this range are in the noisy, crowded streets south and west zocalo, but several of the better deals are to be found in the other sides of town.
I'm puting this links to give you some idea about prices, but in th elonely planet guide they recomend others hotels, if you are interested just ask me to give you more details.

http://www.hostalpochon.com/ 75 pesos per night per person
http://www.geocities.com/luznuyoo/ 70
http://www.paulinahostel.com/ 125 pesos

*  Middle - this range has some good value hotels with prices kept low by competition. for the best, reservations are advisable.

http://www.oaxaca-mio.com/real.htm Hotel Real de antequera - $438 pesos
http://www.gala.com.mx/ hotel Gala - since 53 dollars

* Top end

http://www.hotelfortinplaza.com.mx/ since $840 pesos $1040.00 in this web page the mention that you have to add the tax of 18%



FOOD

Oaxaca is famous for its slow food ... and slower drink. This region offers tasty specialties you won't find elsewhere in Mexico.

Eat at restaurants and markets the specialities: Mole, Chocolate, tejate, mushrooms, grasshoppers and worms!, etc.

Drink Mezcal. - Mezcal (sometimes spelled 'mescal') is a distilled liquor made from the agave plant. A strong smoky drink that symbolizes local culture and tradition, what tequila is to Jalisco, mezcal is to Oaxaca

MEXICO -- Mezcal (sometimes spelled 'mescal') is a distilled liquor made from the agave plant. A strong smoky drink that symbolizes local culture and tradition, what tequila is to Jalisco, mezcal is to Oaxaca.

check the mezcal guide ;)

http://www.planeta.com/ecotravel/mexico/oaxaca/oaxacafood2.html

Note about vegetarian food:

Mexico is NOT known for great vegetarian dining. Yes, there are exceptional restaurants and veggie-friendly locals, but meat (carne) is often served. When asking for comida sin carne, don't be surprised if there is chicken. "But chicken is not meat," some cooks profess, suggesting that only beef (res de carne) is really meat.

On the plus side, Oaxaca is known for its famous cheeses. It's easy to order a terrific quesadilla with cheese and pumpkin flower. Another local dish pleasing to vegetarians and carnivores alike is the tlayuda, the "Oaxacan Pizza" -- a large corn tortilla loaded with beans, cabbage and avocado. It can be topped with meat.


Beaches
http://www.costachica.net/english/index.html -
http://www.oaxaca-travel.com/guide/tips.php?section=tips&lang=us&getdoc=true&atractivo=02.02.01.05 - tips about beaches in Mexico.

* Puerto Escondido (hiden port):  best known by surfers from all over the world.
http://www.mexperience.com/guide/beaches/puertoescondido.htm
http://www.mexicodesconocido.com/english/deportes/acuaticos/detalle.cfm?idpag=1898&idsub=98&idsec=27
http://www.costachica.net/pt_escondido/english/index.html general info, prices, accomodation, etc.

* Huatulco - "The Bays of Huatulco" (Las bahías de Huatulco) - there are nine in total - and between them they are host to 36 stunningly attractive beaches - featuring soft sands and crystal clear blue waters off the Pacific coast in Mexico's State of Oaxaca.
http://www.mexperience.com/guide/beaches/huatulco.htm

* Mazunte
http://www.costachica.net/mazunte/english/index.html general info, prices, accomodation, etc.
http://www.mexicodesconocido.com/english/naturaleza/fauna/detalle.cfm?idpag=1693&idsub=42&idsec=11 about a turtle center here

* Puerto Ángel - nudist beach
http://www.costachica.net/pt_angel/english/index.html mmh.. no much information

* Zipolite - nudist beach
http://www.tomzap.com/zipolite.html - very complete info about this beach



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