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Re: Burning a Windows / DVD player compatible DVD

Thanks to everyone for the replies.

I believe I have now produced a DVD which works (plays in Linux,
Windows and my DVD player - something that I haven't had before) and
I've asked some other people to test it to check if it works on their
players.  This was produced by following Joerg's instructions.

If that doesn't work, I think I now understand what might be going
wrong and how to further investigate and then hopefully fix the
problem - so thanks everyone.



2008/6/2 Andy Polyakov <appro@fy.chalmers.se>:
> Hi,
>> I'm really struggling with this whole compatible DVD thing.
>> For my amateur dramatics group, I have produced a DVD of our show,
>> including menus and all sorts of fun like that.  The DVD plays
>> perfectly with "xine dvd://video/dvd".
>> I have burned the DVD in many different ways, such as "growisofs
>> -dvd-compat -dvd-video -Z /dev/scd1 ." and most of the ways I burn it
>> will work perfectly on my panasonic DVD player.
>> However, when I distributed these DVD's to other people, I have
>> received reports that they don't work on Windows machines (they
>> apparently show up as a blank DVD), Mac's (similar I guess - but no
>> detail on that) or some DVD drives (which just refuse to read them).
>> I believe the DVD that was written that works on Linux and my DVD
>> player is using the UDF file system, but several real DVD's I have use
>> iso9660.
> Well, if a disk gets mounted as iso9600, it doesn't mean that there is no
> UDF directory structure. What you're likely to see it bridge-formatted disk
> containing both ISO9600 and UDF directory structures, and ISO9600 gets
> mounted by default. For reference, mkisofs -dvd-video produces layouts just
> like that.
>> I tried burning it with iso9660 (actually using gnomebaker)
>> and that fails to play on my DVD player, but it is recognised and can
>> be played by a windows computer.
> Right, real DVD players can and some actually do refuse to play ISO9660-only
> media. While Windows can simply not care about file system, it sees just a
> bunch of media files to be played.
> What you're more likely to suffer from is incompatibility at media format
> level (see below), not file system or video content.
>> I'm currently using DVD-R disks, which I understood to be more likely
>> compatible with DVD players  (although I may have that wrong because
>> http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/ suggests that DVD+R disks
>> are more compatible).
> It doesn't really say it. It discusses DVD+ format merits, it discusses how
> to improve compatibility of recordings, but the choice is left to individual
> reader.
>> In case it is useful, I have pasted the output of dvd+rw-mediainfo for
>> one of the burned DVD's at http://pastebin.com/m7479a9c
> For future I'd insist on including dvd+rw-mediainfo directly in message (as
> well as versioning information and even output produced during recording).
> On provided URL one can find:
> INQUIRY:                [LITE-ON ][DVDRW LDW-451S  ][GSB6]
>  Mounted Media:         11h, DVD-R Sequential
>  Last border-out at:    2045*2KB=4188160
>  Track Size:            2247216*2KB
> READ CAPACITY:          2247216*2048=4602298368
> For -dvd-compat/-video recording "last border-out," "track size" and
> "capacity" would normally be the same. Inconsistently low "last border-out"
> value is known to confuse some players rendering such media unplayable in
> this players. Question is why is it low? I used to account it to media
> defects in lead-in area. At least if advised to try different media or media
> brand in such situation, other users seem to confirm that failure is not
> reproducible. However! As I realize now they all reported value of 2045...
> Common media fault? Hardly... Common firmware deficiency? Can be... Common
> usage pattern, such as interference with auto-mounting facility? Can be...
> At least it's least likely recording program's fault, because last
> border-out position is pure firmware domain, i.e. recording program has
> nothing to say about it (not to mention that it's generally known to come
> out right, i.e. equal to last written block + 1).
>> Could anyone suggest how I should be burning these DVD's to ensure
>> they are compatible with both windows and more DVD players?
> If you want to try DVD+R, then do make sure that you instruct your unit to
> burn it with so called DVD-ROM book-type with 'dvd+rw-booktype -dvd-rom
> -unit+r /dev/dvd'. Lite-on should allow you to do that. As for DVD-R. There
> was a case of malformed border-out position mentioned in
> http://fy.chalmers.se/~appro/linux/DVD+RW/hcn.html, look for BTC. If your
> firmware can't correctly handle incremental recording, then
> -use-the-force-luke=dao might be solution even for you. A.

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