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Re: cdrtools cdrecord/cdrecord.c



Hi,

> > This is the first time i read about a technical reason for those
> > patches. I always thought it was to keep alive a source-open GPL'd
> > version of cdrecord which is able to burn DVD.
> 
> I don't understand what you like to say here

It is not easy to discuss the cdrecord-ProDVD topic in any
language. Thus i prefer to stay quite neutral.

Up to the last few days i thought that the issues around
cdrecord and DVD were legal and interpersonal ones. Now i
learned that there are a few other things involved.
I will learn further, probably.


> > I wonder wether Andy and Joerg are aware of a need for such
> > extra treatment. (Listening for an echo now ...)
> 
> ??

Ok. You both don't see any technical truth in the rumor
spread by the person who tried to bite off Volker's
head. Nobody else stood up. File closed.


> > My -RWs leave me after a few months but that does not look
> > like a subtle format problem. Rather like the dye changing
> > its photochemical properties within a year after production.
> 
> This is most likely caused by OPC problems in your writer.
> Try cdrecord -force blank=full

Hm ... i tried much, but i never tried -force.

blank=full ? My  Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01b31  does not
know "full". It's about time i try the new 2.01.01b03 ...
... nope ... no blank=full ...
Let me try it with "all" :

  $ /usr/bin/cdrecord-prodvd.sh dev=0,0,0 -force blank=all
  Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01b03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2006 Jörg Schilling
  Unlocked features: ProDVD Clone 
  Limited  features: 
  This copy of cdrecord is licensed for: private/research/educational_non-commercial_use
  scsidev: '0,0,0'
  scsibus: 0 target: 0 lun: 0
  Linux sg driver version: 3.1.25
  Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'.
  Device type    : Removable CD-ROM
  Version        : 0
  Response Format: 2
  Capabilities   : 
  Vendor_info    : 'HL-DT-ST'
  Identifikation : 'DVDRAM GSA-4082B'
  Revision       : 'A201'
  Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW.
  Using generic SCSI-3/mmc-2 DVD-R/DVD-RW driver (mmc_dvd).
  Driver flags   : DVD MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE 
  Supported modes: PACKET SAO  WARNING: Phys disk size 65264 differs from rzone size 0! Prerecorded disk?
  WARNING: Phys start: 196608 Phys end 261871
  Waiting for drive to calm down.
  Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in real force BLANK mode for single session.
  Last chance to quit, starting real write    0 seconds. Operation starts.
  cdrecord-ProDVD: Input/output error. blank unit: scsi sendcmd: no error
  CDB:  A1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
  status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
  Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 10 32 4D 03 0D 0C 00 00 00
  Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
  Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0
  Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
  cmd finished after 6.591s timeout 9600s
  Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 2 in real force BLANK mode for single session.
  No chance to quit anymore. Operation starts.

30 minutes later it is finished without further message.
The burn attempt via cdrecord-ProDVD fails, nevertheless:

  ...
  BURN-Free is ON.
  Starting new track at sector: 0
  Track 01:    0 of 4480 MB written.cdrecord-ProDVD: Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
  CDB:  2A 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 1F 00
  status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
  Sense Bytes: 70 00 03 00 00 00 00 10 32 4D 03 0D 0C 00 00 00
  Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, Segment 0
  Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0
  Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 
  cmd finished after 11.053s timeout 100s
  
  write track data: error after 0 bytes
  cdrecord-ProDVD: A write error occured.
  cdrecord-ProDVD: Please properly read the error message above.
  cdrecord-ProDVD: Input/output error. test unit ready: scsi sendcmd: no error
  CDB:  00 00 00 00 00 00
  status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
  Sense Bytes: 71 00 03 00 00 00 00 10 32 4D 03 0D 0C 00 00 00
  Sense Key: 0x3 Medium Error, deferred error, Segment 0
  Sense Code: 0x0C Qual 0x00 (write error) Fru 0x0
  Sense flags: Blk 0 (not valid) 

  
At least with this burner, no blanking or formatting treatment
via cdrecord-ProDVD or growisofs did ever help after the
media went bad. 

I -force blanked another media by cdrecord-ProDVD and could
dvd+rw-format it to Restricted Overwrite afterwards.
Nevertheless, growisofs aborted on OPC:
  :-[ PERFORM OPC failed with SK=3h/ASC=73h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error

I also tried the new growisofs option which avoids OPC.
No success:
  :-[ WRITE@LBA=20h failed with SK=3h/ASC=0Ch/ACQ=00h]: Input/output error
  :-( write failed: Input/output error


> I cannot recommend DVD+RW because the interchange compatibility 
> is too low.
[from the reply to Volker]:
> And BTW: the problems I did see with DVD+RW media while trying to read 
> the same test media (written on different drives) on different drives
> clearly shows that DVD+RW compatibility is lousy. This is why I prefer DVD-RW.
> DVD-RW did never cause real trouble.

I am not aware of computer DVD-ROM drives which refuse
to read successfully verified DVD+RW.
You surely got more drives at hand than i, but within
my own range of (mostly hearsay) experience there seems
to be a tendency that +RW is more reliable.

Possibly one should really start a multi-dimensional
database in the web and record all the successful and
not so successful combinations of drives and media.


BTW: As my share of regression testing:
Cdrecord-ProDVD-Clone 2.01.01b03 runs fine on SuSE 9.0,
with my LG burner and 4x DVD+RW.


Have a nice day :)

Thomas



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