Re: Standardization, large scale changes, innovations
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
> > How can we change our processes so that doing/organizing such changes
> > is less of a burden?
>
> They are not.
I can't accept the premise that we can't do better at this level.
I managed to get my own project through the end (it's deployed, people can
use the new source formats) but other worthwhile projects have not (or not
yet) and I believe we should enhance our processes so that we can more
effectively work _together_ on common goals (think of ddebs for example).
Such projects are very difficult to do as one-man show in particular when
you have no idea whether your work is going to used/deployed or not.
> I think the debhelper way is the best way to achieve standards within
> Debian: rather than trying to convince people through arguments, we
> convince people through technology.
I try to convince through technology, I advertise the result through
arguments. And I keep improving the formats based on the feedback that I
explicitly request.
> > 5/ I have the feeling that Debian is innovating less than it used to do.
> > We are more often followers rather than leaders.
> >
> > Do you share that feeling?
>
> Yes, to some extent. But I'm not convinced that trying to standardize on
> anything will change that -- on the contrary.
>
> > What shall we do to make that change?
>
> To encourage innovation, people must have the freedom to experiment.
> Innovation is impossible if too many standards are imposed on people.
Please don't relate that question to the standardization question, it was
not meant to. You answer is rather limited, I hope you can elaborate.
We all have the freedom to experiment, we have all the sources, so why
aren't we any longer innovating?
And innovations only counts if it reaches a released product, otherwise
it's only research. How can we go from successful experimentation to
real innovations in our releases?
Cheers,
--
Raphaël Hertzog
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