Re: Installation
On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 21:40 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 22:51:39 +0200
> Ralf Mardorf <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 2012-09-11 at 21:17 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> > > Since Squeeze I think that Debian has removed itself from this market. The
> > > main repository and kernel contain only FLOSS software. I.e. many drivers
> > > are missing and have to be separately installed. This is beyond a total
> > > newbie, and I think could not be rendered easily attainable by attaching a
> > > set of instructions. So sadly, I have come to the conclusion that I must
> > > recommend e.g. Linux Mint if any newbie who wishes to self-install were to
> > > ask me for my opinion.
> >
> > A serious issue for all Linux distros are codecs. We're living in the
> > media age, consumer need codecs. http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
> > Last time (02 Sep 2012) I tried to upgrade my AV Linux (Debian stable),
> > gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg should be automatically removed. I didn't notice a
> > replacement that should be installed. Conflicts caused by codecs (just
> > one issue) are an issue for most distros I know.
>
> ? I use standard A/V packages (Mplayer and VLC) from Stable (with some
> Backports stuff), and never have any codec issues at all.
>
> What codecs would a typical user encounter that aren't available in
> Debian?
>
> Celejar
"There is at least one extra codec package available for amd64 and i386
machines that is not available from Debian. On amd64, the package is
w64codecs, and on i386, the package is w32codecs." -
http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
"DVDs are usually encrypted with CSS. CSS is not a codec. In any case,
here is some information on playback of encrypted DVDs. All media
players use libdvdcss2 in order to playback these encrypted DVDs " -
http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
It's anyway needed and for good reasons listed on the codec wiki.
"If you want to rip audio CD's to MP3's with e.g. Sound Juicer, you want
to have the "gstreamer0.10-lame" package from e.g.
www.deb-multimedia.org." - http://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs
Regarding to patents you won't find apps like Cinelerra in an official
repository. Since NLE for video hasn't the capabilities for professional
usage on Linux, at least a good amateur app like Cinelerra should be in
an official repository. Btw. stuff like NLE for video does force people
to use Microsoft and Apple OS, because Linux doesn't provide
professional apps to cut film. That many people don't use Linux isn't
the result of issues when newbies try to install Linux. The bigger
problems are issues regarding to hardware and missing professional
software. I'm using Linux only for audio engineering, but many people
can't use Linux only, because to much is missing for their needs. For
example, I never ever would use Auto-Tune, so I'm not missing stuff like
that, but listen to the charts, there's no song produced without
Auto-Tune.
Don't get me wrong, I'm a Linux only user [1], but IMO it's stupid to
claim that Linux does things better than they can be done using
Microsoft or Apple. Very often Linux can't do things, that are available
for Microsoft and Apple.
[1] Half-truth, I run XP in VBox, to sync a tablet PC, because it
doesn't work with Linux. The cause is an evil vendor, but unfortunately
this planet is an evil place and not Ponyland.
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