Re: To enable the power management mechanism
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 2:47 PM, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasquez.v@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Mark Goldshtein
> <mark.goldshtein@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 9:37 PM, Javier Vasquez <j.e.vasquez.v@gmail.com> wrote:
>>...
>>
>> If you have couple of minutes, would you, please, to expand your
>> comments about a system without desktop environment? Targeting a
>> laptop.
>
> In both the laptops I manage:
>
> 1.- Dell Inspiron 600M (my dad's).
> 2.- Compaq 8510w (from work).
>
> I don't have a desktop environment such as kde, gnome, xfce, or any
> other. In my dad's I call startfluxbox from ~/.xsession, and have xdm
> installed and working, that's it.
>
> For the one from work, as I'm the only one using it, I don't even have
> a session loader installed, to start X I just call startx, and again,
> I just call startfluxbox from ~/.xsession.
>
> I've lived that way for so long that I don't like bloated (my opinion,
> not to start a discussion) desktop environments... Things might
> change, but I still feel confortable this way...
>
>> Is that enough to install a base system, bootloader, then reboot,
>
> I don't know what a base system is. For squeeze (I had recently to
> install it in other boxes, also without desktop environment) the first
> thing I did was to change the configuration that by default now sets
> APT to always install "recommended packages":
>
> % cat /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/00InstallRecommends
> APT::Install-Recommends "false";
>
> That I did through the installation process, since with "recommends"
> there's a lot of unnecessary (according to me) software installed.
> Then I didn't install anything else than the minimum required. The
> default coming from squeeze might do. Then I start installing the
> applications I want, including power management, fluxbox, X, alsa
> stuff, etc... Without using tasksel, since most of such tasks are not
> good for me. I always install build-essential, and some additional
> compilation stuff, plus other applications for office, web browsing
> etc.
>
> This is my approach, doesn't mean you have to follow though. BTW, I
> use aptitude in ncurses mode to install, and select/unselect some
> dependencies...
>
>> install "acpi" packages you have mentioned, xorg and then a window
>> manager?
>> Is there dependences on 'xorg', which allow a proper xorg installation?
>
> There's a package Xorg which automatically triggers lots of
> dependencies such as xserver-xorg. I do install more stuff. I don't
> like xserver-xorg-*-all, I go and unselect them, and instead select
> just the input devices, video devices etc that I need. I don't like
> installing everything. Then I also shoot for several fonts not
> automatically selected by Xorg, like TTFs, and terminus (the one I use
> for console and X terminals)...
>
>> Please, correct me, I am sure I have missed a lot of useful system
>> components. Like xscreensaver, for example.
>
> Xorg was having lots of problems with memory management with
> Xscreensaver on the Dell inspiron laptop. There's a reported and
> unfixed bug about it, so I completely dropped xscreensaver. I use
> instead a combination of:
>
> xlockmore
> xautolock
>
> I think that provides all I need in terms of screen saving. And more
> now that I'm trying to play green a bit, :-) So I just have blank
> screen to minimize power consuption, :-)
>
> Please notice that what works for one, doesn't mean works for
> everyone. A lot of people is happy with desktop environments, so it
> might be they work OK for you...
>
> --
> Javier.
Lots of useful info in there Javier. Also worth mentioning, though it
doesn't seem you use it, is laptop-mode-tools.
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