On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 09:03:52AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 12:18:54PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>On 06/16/2010 06:09 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > >>>Ron Johnson put forth on 6/15/2010 1:50 PM: > >>>>On 06/15/2010 01:37 PM, Andrew Sackville-West wrote: > >>>>[snip] > >>>>>an USB enclosure and use it for backups. Having ~700GB of data with the > >>>>>most critical ~400GB backed up is definitely preferable than no > >>>>Geez, I remember when I couldn't fill up a 40_MB_ drive, and before that > >>>>when I was in awe of the KayPro 10. > >>>> > >>>My first computer was a Kaypro PC. No CP/M. > >>Youngster. I had a KayPro II. With, originally, TurboPascal 1.0! > > > >Mmm, http://oldcomputers.net/kayproii.html so around 1982? > > > >Commodore PET. 1977 :) > > > > What was that thing that was only a keyboard that had the cpu and > memory built into it? You connected a tape player for the I/O and a > TV for the display. I used it to play chess on and to do astrology > programs. It took hours to get that thing to read in a tape without > errors. It was around 1977 I think. there were a couple of machines that worked that way, but I'm guessing you're thinking of the Commodore Vic-20 and 64 (and later the 128, but floppies were becoming common then). I think some of the others like the Tandy's or the Sinclair used a tape drive and tv rig. Maybe the Ataris as well, but I don't recall and I'm too lazy to look... I still miss my C-64. The tape drive was awful(ly slow), but worked. The Commodore floppy drives were pretty awful too, but I was lucky to get a third party floppy and (Emerald Components International, ordered it with a money order, took forever to arrive) it was pretty slick. I also remember the upgrade from 300 to 1200 baud... I couldn't out type the modem quite so easily after that. I think your dates are a little early though. The C-64, 64K, 1MHz MOS 6510, came out in 1982, the vic-20, 5K, 1MHz MOS 6502, in 1980 A
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