OT: .."not MS business strategy" ;o), was: [Flightgear-devel] [Simgear-cvslogs]CVS:source/simgear/propsprops.cxx, 1.44, 1.45 props.hxx, 1.32, 1.33
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- From: Arnt Karlsen <arnt@c2i.net>
- Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2009 05:37:16 +0200
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On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 12:22:49 -0400, Nicolas wrote in message
<808354800907190922n4853debbv75b7ebaaa3100073@mail.gmail.com>:
> The issue has to do with standards compliance and C++ idioms,
> not MS business strategy
..Microsoft has _all_ the resources it might ever need to get
their own compilers to do these things right, and it appears
they have chosen _not_ to.
..instead, I see Microsoft prefers to refer to their habitual
non-compliance to standards, as "embrace and extend", which is
what they, Microsoft, calls "a Microsoft business strategy." ;o)
..whether or not that decision, by Microsoft, "to embrace and
extend" C++ idioms, is some random accident, or, as I (and a
few more) guess, "by their book" and in accordance with their
business strategy, I don't know, I can only point towards
Microsoft's own track record, which, as we all _can_ see
(if we want to see), speaks _loudly_ on these matters. ;o)
..http://groklaw.net/ has all you might ever need, to form
an educated and honorable opinion on that track record. ;o)
And, is OT here at FG-dev, so let's FU at Groklaw. ;o)
http://www.groklaw.net/comment.php?mode=display&sid=20090717043855128&title=..my+guess+is,+Microsoft+is+going+after+the+Debian+etc+distro+mirror+donors.&type=article&order=&hideanonymous=0&pid=769578#c769950
> Funny how any sense of perspective is thrown out the window with the
> opportunity to rag on MS...
..I gave a simple pointer to help answer a seemingly simple
question that both is and is not quite that simple, to try
help FlightGear developers from wasting time and effort
"on Microsoft compiler etc issues", that I have learned,
Microsoft does not want fixed.
..und Sie? ;o)
> Sheesh !!
..you could say that on Debian.org's "wisdom" ;o) in making
Mono and C# etc part of their default desktop install, and
in putting them on their mirrors in the main repository,
rather than in their non-free or contrib repositories, or
even in a new "donated-mirror-killer-litigation-bait" category.
Etc. And, is OT here at FG-dev. ;o)
..my own _guess_ is, Microsoft is targeting Debian thru its
mirror _donors_, all it takes, are non-frivolous lawsuits on
each donor, and for that you need something better than what
tSCOG has made IBM, Novell, AutoZone, Chrysler and Red Hat
spend the last 6 years on, http://groklaw.net/ tracks these
cases.
..patent claims or copyright etc infringement claims, _will_
do the job, and let's face it, Microsoft does own .NET.
--
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;o)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
Scenarios always come in sets of three:
best case, worst case, and just in case.
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