Re: [OT] The record industry, RIAA and US law

[Celejar <celejar@gmail.com>]

On Fri, 11 May 2007 18:42:26 +0200
Joe Hart <j.hart@orange.nl> wrote:

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> Celejar wrote:
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> >> Yes, I consider the USA my country too.  I have dual nationality, so I
> >> am American and Dutch.  I see the pros and cons of both systems of
> >> government, and I have no real preference to one over the other.  But
> >> the media issue is a strong point for the Dutch.
> > 
> > But as I asked you in another post, what does that have to do with
> > systems of government?
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[snipped Joe's political views]

I have no problem with your views, but you apparently misunderstood my
question. I meant "How do your alleged differences in media relate to
systems of government?"?

> >> As for the foreign policy, the countries are actually similar, but the
> >> one big difference is that The Netherlands is not actively forcing
> >> democracy on other countries (although they do participate in Bosnia and
> >> in Afghanistan).
> > 
> > Of course. The question is, though, which way is better? Should we not
> > invade the Sudan to save innocent lives, because that would be forcing
> > our liberal notions of decency on the savages there? 
> >
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> The only time the United States gets involved is when it is in their
> interests to do so.  Why didn't anything happen in Rwanda?

Rwanda is unquestionably a stain on our (and everyone else's) record.

 
> Sudan is different because it is Islamic fundamentalist that are doing
> much of the fighting, and we know that in today's war on terror, Islamic
> Fundamentalist are being targeted.

You're not addressing the question I'm posing: should we intervene in
the Sudan to save innocent lives, or would you object to that as
"forcing democracy on other countries"?


> What I would like to know is why the United States backs Israel in what
> could be considered inhumane treatment of people under it's control
> (illegally for the last 39 years).

If you refer to our general support of Israel, that's simply explained;
Israel, for any faults it may have, is a friendly, democratic ally, the
only one in the region, and it's surrounded by vicious, savage,
murderous and sometimes lunatic neighbors. If you're referring to
support of specific aspects of Israeli policy that you consider
"inhumane treatment of people under it's control", please be more
specific. Incidentally, I believe that the charge of illegality is
debatable.

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> Joe

Celejar
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