Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings
On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:44:01 -0500
Curt Howland <Howland@priss.com> wrote:
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> On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> was heard
> to say:
> > Do you really mean that societies
> > are better off when governed by tyrants than when governed by
> > democratically elected governments?
>
> Actually, what I said was "monarchy and oligarchy", not "tyranny". As
> any American who finds himself on the "no fly list" if tyranny cannot
> happen with a democratically elected government, and they will assure
> you it most certainly can.
You certainly did mention tyranny; here's the quote:
> Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing. At
> least in a monarchy or oligarchy, the ruler has some small incentive
> to pass on a prosperous nation to their successor. These "elected"
> examples of sewage have incentive only to take every bit of loot they
> can before their term in office is up.
>
> At least with a tyrant, they can't use the excuse, "Well, you elected
> me. You must _want_ the rape you get."
> Democracy works as a decision making process when it is voluntary,
> such as the Debian project. But then so does oligarchy (RedHat) and
> tyranny (Ubuntu, Slackware).
>
> The difference, as has been said many times before by better men than
> I, is coercion.
> > Do you think that this has been
> > historically true WRT the actual tyrants and actual democratic
> > governments that the world has experienced?
>
> Again with the tyrants. If you want to compare tyrants and
> non-tyrants, sure. Any non-tyrant is going to be better than a
> tyrant, elected or not.
*You* brought up tyrants, as above.
Celejar
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