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Re: [OT] Bruce Perens talks to BBC



El mié, 28 de ene de 2004, a las 03:55:21 -0800, Steve Lamb dijo:

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>     Could it be because they are listening to their media and believing all 
>     of
> what they say without thinking for themselves?  Could it be the limiting 
> view
> their parochial education and limited political choice?  I mean the 
One out of two representatives of two parties is not what I would call 
unlimited political choice. 

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> >All your pathetic faith placed in personalities like Bush and
> >Cheney, once and still executive figures with Enron and Haliburton, prime
> >examples in the history of corporate corruption, and still not brought to
> >trial.
> 
>     Another misconception in a message full of them.  Newsflash, Bush lost 
> the popular vote.  There are quite a few people here pissed off about that. 
> Furthermore he has butchered the Constitution and Bill of Rights.  Many 
> more people are ticked off about that.  If you think that the US is 
> uniformly behind its present you're just plain stupid.  I, for one, have no 
> faith in Bush and if it were possible less in Cheney.  I didn't vote for 
> them and certainly won't come the next election.  I've been vocal about my 
> opposition. Do a google search.
> 
This doesn't really matter. I didn't vote for current spanish government
but I could not disagree (even less be offended) if somebody told me
that Spain (short for "the government elected by most of the spanish
citizens" and not for "every single spanish") is heading in the wrong direction.

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> right!  Peh. We never should have gone out in the first place.
The thing which I really don't understand is why, if you oppose to what
they do, you align with "them" with this "We".

My general feeling on all that is that, so far, all kind of governments
(in socialist systems, "democrat" capitalist systems, dictatorships, whatever)
have failed miserably.
In my opinion, Mankind has survived and progressed in spite of governments.

Jose



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