Re: Rant about installer features (Re: Progeny)
Greg Folkert wrote:
> ...
>>>Just for laughs, how does FC go on that box?
>>
>>Nothing to laugh about - it just works. Perfectly, straight out of the
>>box. No mucking about, just create the partitions i want (RAID 1 on
>>everything: /, /boot, and swap) and install. So does SuSE Personal 9.1.
>
>
> Too bad. MD Raid is tough for a bootable setup with automated tools.
This is part of what i don't understand. As Alvin Oga and i were
discussing a while back (see archives), it is a supported configuration
by the kernel, and Red Hat have supported it since 7.3. I guess that's
why Progeny decided to port anaconda - it worked out your tough problem.
> I have a workaround to get it to work proper.
>
> If you want I can help you through that.
Thank you. That's the first offer i've had (except for John
Summerfield's offer to consult for a fee). If you'd like a description
of my problem, see
<http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/07/msg02914.html> and
<http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/07/msg00771.html> (although
the hang is fixed under recent snapshots).
I've read several HOWTOs on it, but none of them seem to solve the
problem completely:
http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/07/msg01195.html
http://www.james.rcpt.to/programs/debian/raid1/
http://members.ferrara.linux.it/calicant/docs/debianraid/debian_raid1.html
I just did a bit more searching and found
http://alioth.debian.org/projects/rootraiddoc/ - maybe i'll try that.
Maybe all of this is pointless if i just wait for the next Progeny beta
release. According to Ian Murdock it is fairly close, and as long as it
can see my SATA drives, i suspect it will work.
> ...
> I jumped ship from RedHat long before that. RH7.3 is the Last version I
> installed from ANYONE. Customers included.
There seems to be a large anti-Red Hat/SuSE contingent here. (I have a
gift for stating the obvious. :-) I know people don't like their
trademark & Enterprise subscription licenses, but until they stopped
supporting Red Hat Linux, they were a genuinely free, useful, and stable
option. Everything "just worked" for me, including RPM, which everyone
who hasn't take the time to understand seems to think is fundamentally
broken. (It's not - saying RPM is broken because it doesn't
automatically resolve dependencies is like saying dpkg is broken for the
same reason. It's a low-level tool for the job of package management -
the smarts are in the upper levels like yum & apt-get, just like they
are on Debian.)
> ...
> I am supporting the existing 7.3- with yum. Using www.fedoralegacy.org
> awesome. But not quite Debian... :)
And not quite updated regularly, either.
> ...
>>Sorry for the venting, but i imagine i'm not alone - there are plenty of
>>Red Hat refugees around, and i was almost sold on Debian before i even
>>installed it. You can make some significant new converts by just taking
>>our concerns seriously.
>
> We aren't called Snobbians fer nothing. Another common term I ave seen:
> Dweebians.
I found that out the hard way...
> ...
> Don't let us get you down.
Too late for that. ;-(
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