Re: Insidious Spam/swen/Garbage
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 17:41:12 +0100
David Jardine <david@jardine.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Oct 26, 2003 at 04:50:35AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sun, 2003-10-26 at 04:37, Andre Kalus wrote:
> > > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:33:30 +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 10:28:26PM +0200, David Jardine wrote:
> > > >> On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 02:39:43AM +0100, Pigeon wrote:
> > > >> > On Sat, Oct 25, 2003 at 01:14:38AM +0200, David Jardine
> > > >wrote:> > > It is beyond my capability (but only slightly, I
> > > >feel, and it should> > > be very easy for lots of people here) to
> > > >produce a sort of> > > interactive fetchmail that reads the
> > > >headers of each message on the> > > server, presents them to you
> > > >and asks if you want to fetch the> > > message or delete it.
> > > >This is what I would like to have.> >
> > > >> > ...like pop3browser?
> > > >>
> > > >> That looks useful - when I can get it working :( - and decently
> > > >small.
> > > >
> > > > ...it's dead easy; what problem are you having?
> > >
> > > It is very simple - you do not need any config. I just installed
> > > mutt(from unstable). Then I call:
> > >
> > > mutt -f pop://xxxxxxx@pop.gmx.net
> > >
> > > where xxxxxxx is my customer number from GMX (you can use both
> > > e-Mail address and customer number as login but I guess E-mail
> > > won't work because it has an @ inside). pop.gmx.net is your
> > > providers pop server.
> > >
> > > Then you are asked for your password and see the contents of your
> > > mailbox. Use arrow keys to move up and down, press D to delete a
> > > message. Q exits mutt, it asks you to delete the marked ("D")
> > > messages. Just press enter and you are done.
> > >
> > > I do have a dial-up connection too, so this is my way to get rid
> > > of SWEN...
> >
> > For a high-volume account, this seems *so* tedious. fetchmail,
> > exim|postfix, SpamAssassin, and any one of the automated swen
> > zappers is much more efficient.
>
> I'm sure you're right, Ron, but I don't have any high-volume
> accounts and I'm grateful to Andre and pigeon for pointing out
> to me what I'd missed.
>
> One problem I had with it is that it gave the message lengths as
> zero, which didn't aid swen-spotting.
>
> Thanks to all you people I've now got enough solutions to leave
> me in a state of complete confusion. However, I still don't
> understand (and I understand very little of these network
> matters) why an interactive fetchmail thing doesn't seem to
> exist. Is it because it would clog access to the mailserver if
> fetchmail users held connections open while they pondered? Do
> the servers close the connection after the briefest of periods
> of inactivity? Or what?
> >
> --
> David Jardine
>
The way I see it is that with all the separate componentry available
with Debian, you can configure for any eventuality according to the
individual need, whether that be for high volumn or otherwise. Standard
configs do not answer to that. That's why I'm here, it's a steep
learning curve at times, but that has its' profit factors also.
If it's any consolation, you're further along the road than I am.
I'm still figuring out the intricacies of sylpheed and evolution, but
I'm looking forward to the rest.
Regards,
David.
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