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Re: Recommended tape backup software - tape vs disk - raided



hi ya ron

> And I'll be bringing home my greater-than-terabyte-sized 
> enterprise database (to poke around with it..) some time in 
> the near future???  Not likely.

it fits in a itty bitty "2u" cases...
	- 2 or more of um for redundancy/reliability

> Besides, I don't have a $3M Alpha w/ VMS & Rdb licenses
> in the back bedroom, either...

not yet :-)

but everybody has more than a compute power equivalent of an
old cray-1 in their homes now... :-)

 
> > > > A terabyte is 10 AIT-3 tapes. How many disks is it?
> > > 
> > >     10 120 gig IDE drives. 
> > > 
> > >     Each with lots of electronics to fail. 
> > 
> > yuppers... and with a tape drive.. you only fix one ??
> 
> The likelihood that 1 of 10 mechanical devices will break
> in a given timespan is far more likely than the likelyhood
> of just one device breaking.

yup... but when one tape drive dies.. everything waits...
	till one goes off and gets a new $7K tape drive...
	( most people have 2 or 3 identical drives ?? i hope...

	- when it died at the wrong time is when we switched
	over the the disks-based backups .. since we got it 
	back online within hours... the tape drive took months

when one disk dies... throw it away and put in a new one...

> > and i've never dropped at tape drive... nor disks...
> > 	- tapes get dropped because a klutz like me is swapping
> > 	out a tape w/ feeble fingers... 
> 
> To quote you:
> > > > On Mon, 2002-05-20 at 06:22, Alvin Oga wrote:
> > > > > 	--- if the disks is raid5'd ... give one disk
> > > > > 	--- to each of the CEO/CFO/CTO/foo/bar and no one user
> > > > > 	--- has all the data... no way for stealing corp secrets
> 
> By definition, you must pull those spindles in order to give
> them to the CEO/CFO/CTO/foo/bar.  So, not only might _you_
> drop the disks, but the CEO/CFO/CTO/foo/bar may also drop them.

i wouldn't give "backups" to people ....
	( when the backups contain user passwds and
	( financial data or other sensitive stuff...

	- raid5 provides a built feature that no one
	user can have all the data.... if one backups only
	one disk-dump per tape or disk...

	- was meant for 2 tapes to offsite  san francisco office
	and 2 tapes to offsite boston office 
	and 1 tape to offsite UK office

c ya
alvin


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