Re: PINE Debian Package
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On Thu, 23 Apr 1998, Anthony Fok wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 21, 1998 at 01:33:47PM +0200, Santiago Vila Doncel wrote:
> >
> > I contacted washington.edu and they really do not want binaries to be
> > distributed if they do not "approve" the patches *first*.
> >
> > If we do not have the freedom to apply whatever patches we like, including
> > security or bug fixes, without an approval from the University of
> > Washington, then we will have to distribute the patches without the
> > binaries.
>
> I wonder: Could we all band together and complain *loudly* but *politely*?
> ;-) This is very very frustrating, and it is giving both Pine and Debian a
> bad reputation.
Not Debian, because Debian is a free software Linux distribution, and pine
is non-free. This is like saying that not having Microsoft Word as part
of Debian is giving both Microsoft and Debian a bad reputation ;-)
It could give "bad reputation" on the eyes of those who think that Debian
is just "one more Linux distribution". But considering that Debian is 100%
free, I don't see any bad reputation on the Debian side, really.
> They are going to keep losing users if they keep this
> stupid "No patched binaries" thing up. It does nothing but to show how
> stubborn, non-trusting and "non-free" (libre) they are, and it has become so
> much of a frustration that many of us here choose to use mutt instead.
Not our fault, I think.
People should know that pine is not free. I would switch to mutt right now
but I'm already very used to pine, so everything I can do is to recommend
mutt over pine to my friends.
> Should we get a petition and a nice request letter going? :-)
RMS has tried it several times, I think, without any success.
Do you really think we would succeed? Any special reason why they would
hear us now but not before?
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