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Re: X server will not start up after driver "upgrade"



On Fri, 8 Jul 2005, Richard Boyce wrote:

Hi Brandon,


I did it anyway, and it crashed my computer.  So I rebooted into
recovery mode, switched back to the open 'nv' driver instead of the
closed 'nvidia' driver, and rebooted.  Now I cannot start an X session.
I tried re-installing the nvidia driver and unfortunately, the situation
is the same.  No X session with either driver.

I think you may be misunderstanding where the fault is here - as the
paragraphs below show, X starts fine. If you get a gdm login, or see the
X cursor, X has started and is running. The problem occurs after that.

With no X session running, from a console, as myself, I type 'startx'.
The screen flashes, I get the 'X' mouse cursor in the middle of the
screen and the debian splash, but no little icons (gnome-panel,
nautilus, etc...).  Shortly thereafter I get dumped back to the
console.  No errors are reported.  The output of the 'startx' command is
included here:

(snip)
,>
Before I got to the console 'startx' level, I was running from within
gdm, and the problem manifested itself in the same way. I would get the
standard greeter, select my username and enter my password, and the same
behavior would happen: Screen flashes, debian splash, but no icons, and
shortly thereafer, the X session would quit.  But I would also get the
[not helpful, oxymoronic] log output in syslog:

From the two paragraphs above it seems very likely that the fault lies
with the desktop environment you use. From your mention of nautilus I
presume that this is gnome? Perhaps you could try choosing a different
environment from gdm, just to confirm this.



Thanks for your response and your insight. I performed a few more tests (sad that "starting my computer" is now tantamount to running tests) and found: - for my user, from gdm, the result is effectively the same for Gnome, KDE, and Xfce -- I get a blank screen (or the debian splash) with a mouse cursor which still responds to mouse movement, and then about 15 seconds later I get kicked back to the gdm greeter. - the computer has two other normal local users, who can both login from gdm normally. - root cannot login from gdm (default security settings) but can start its own X session from console.

So I agree with you that there is something wrong with my user, but it's somehow lower-level than Gnome, but higher-level than X. What's there?

I could, I suppose, try creating a new user, deleting the old user, and then changing the UID of the new user (I need the UID to be the same in order to interact with other computers properly). But if the problem is deeper than user config files, this approach might not find it, especially if the new user ends up with the same username and uid as the old user.

If you have any suggestions, I'd be happy to take this discussion to a more appropriate list, but I wouldn't know where just yet.

Thanks again for your help.  It would mean a lot for me to get this fixed.

-Brandon



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