Re: pythonX.Y maintenance team
On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 3:26 PM, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> wrote:
> On Friday, April 13, 2012 08:37:26 AM Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 23:35, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> wrote:
>> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 11:04:33 PM Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> >> On Thu, Apr 12, 2012 at 22:50, Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com>
> wrote:
>> >> > On Thursday, April 12, 2012 10:20:04 PM Sandro Tosi wrote:
>> >> >> To give a (fresh) example and what I meant above, you can try to
>> >> >> answer this provocative question: Why Ubuntu has Python 2.7.3 since
>> >> >> more than 2 days (even before it was publicly announced) while Debian
>> >> >> is still stuck with a RC, FingTBFS on 4 archs version?
>> >> >
>> >> > Probably because Ubuntu is a day before final freeze for a release. I
>> >> > virtually always upload stuff to Debian first where I'm the Debian
>> >> > maintainer for a package, but there are legitimate reasons why in some
>> >> > cases that's not the best way to go about it.
>> >>
>> >> exactly my point as in "that usually means there are different priorities
>> >> when working for Debian over Ubuntu"
>> >>
>> >> > We all get busy with $DAYJOB every now and then and that's OK.
>> >>
>> >> funny how in this case the dayjob overlaps the "hobby", so I guess one
>> >> could have achieved the best for both distro with minimal effort (as
>> >> the changelog for previous syncs suggest) but decided to just go with
>> >> one only.
>> >
>> > It's not that simple. Depending on the timing of various processes in
>> > Debian/Ubuntu there can be a substantial (as much as a day) delay from
>> > Debian upload to when a package can be synced into Ubuntu. When you're
>> > only two or three days from a freeze, that can be unacceptable.
>>
>> I see; another point for having Debian maintainers whose main interest
>> is making Debian the best distro.
>
> That or people in Debian with just a slight bit of perspective that it's not
> the only thing that matters. There are good and valid reasons to upload to
> Ubuntu first. There are times when people get busy with work. There are also
> times when the only 'solution' available is a short term hack that's needed
> for Ubuntu's time based release schedule that isn't appropriate to Debian's
> approach of doing things right and releasing when ready.
>
> I'm not saying that there have never been delays that weren't ideal, but I
> think in this case you're trying to make a point out of a small matter.
1 month and counting, and FTBFS fixed by a NMU.
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Sandro Tosi (aka morph, morpheus, matrixhasu)
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