Re: Re-thinking Debian membership
On Sat, Oct 25 2008, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le samedi 25 octobre 2008 à 01:12 -0500, Manoj Srivastava a écrit :
>> One of the issues I have with this proposal is that there seems
>> to be, by design, absolutely no consideration about skill levels or
>> quality of developers. I'll concede that the current process might not
>> do a great job of assessing quality of contribution, but it tries. The
>> new process does not seem to have any such effort.
> On the contrary, peer review is the only process we have today that
> correctly asses quality.
> Require DD endorsement to be justified, as well as the veto, and you’ll
> get a picture of the skills of the candidate.
Then I would like to see some language like this added to the
proposal. If for nothing else, then to dispell the spectre of a bunch
(cabal, if you prefer) DD's just inviting their cronies into Debian, by
lowering the bar on skill levels.
I also think there might be the facebook/social site effect:
without the active requirements on advocacy (the justification you talk
about), people can feel pressurred to advocate (I get all these link
request on linked in. some from people I have no idea about. I have
rejected two or three of these things, but usually I just vote to let
them in into my circle of "friends". Why? because the cost of saying
yes is so low, and I do not want to piss off someone who might later
be in a position to help me [think DAM]).
Now, I might be getting too paranoid about potential for
cronyism (am I channeling Clint?), but I do think some language should
be added about the voting.
There should be, for example, required sections about skill
sets, and how the advocate personally knows about it, sections on
previous work done for debian, and a section on collegiality (he gets
along well, does not blow his top).
I think such clarifications on the justification for voting in
or vetoing would improve this proposal.
Ed Sullivan will be around as long as someone else has talent. Fred
Manoj Srivastava <email@example.com> <http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/>
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