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Re: Please pass judgement on X-Oz licence: free or nay?



On Tue, 2004-08-03 at 10:09, Brian Thomas Sniffen wrote:
> Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr> writes:
> 
> >> >  * Except as contained in this notice, the name of the copyright holder(s)
> >> >  * and author(s) shall not be used in advertising or otherwise to promote
> >> >  * the sale, use or other dealings in this Software without prior written
> >> >  * authorization from the copyright holder(s) and author(s).
> >> 
> >> That's clearly GPL-incompatible -- I don't know that that's a problem
> >> for the relevant code, but I'd imagine it would be for *some* X code.
> >
> > Huh ? It just says that you are not allowed to use the name of the author for
> > promotion and such ? How is that GPL incompatible ? 
> 
> It's an additional restriction, and thus conflicts with GPL 6.

It's written into US copyright law and so is a no-op. Tt doesn't
conflict with anything.

> >> I think it's right on the border of freedom, but on the non-free side
> >> of that border.  It prohibits some true statements -- if I'm trying to
> >> sell some kiosk to a third party, and he asks me who wrote the
> >> autoconfig code, I *can't tell him*.  That seems pretty weird, in a
> >> situation in which I allegedly have freedom.
> >
> > Well you could tell him to look at the copyright notice of the software ? 
> 
> Yes, I could, but I can't make some true statements!  That can't be free.

Then US copyright law prevents any licenses from being free.

Brian, stop calling the MIT and 3 clause BSD licenses non-free. If
anyone needed evidence that debian-legal has become overreaching and
useless, it's here.
-- 
Joe Wreschnig <piman@debian.org>

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