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Re: [fielding@apache.org: Review of proposed Apache License, version 2.0]



On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 11:24, Brian T. Sniffen wrote:

> The patent prevents you from solving the covered problem, no matter
> how you come to that solution.  So the unlawfullness of integrating
> the patented method into the parsing of your favorite text editor has
> nothing to do with the web server.  Saying that the webserver's code
> is thus unfree -- attributing the unlawfulness to the method by which
> you became aware of the unlawful option -- seems wrong to me.

I disagree, depending on circumstances. For example, when the LZW
patents were still valid, I could not (legally) modify Gimp to produce
normal GIFs. That didn't make Gimp non-free, it made the US and various
other countries non-free.

However, if, for example, a company releases under the MIT X11 license a
program that does A, but also patents doing A --- and enforces that
patent --- then A is not free software. If they grant a limitless
license to the patent, it becomes free again.

I think you must look at the entire picture --- not just the copyright
one --- to determine if software is free. I don't think its free if the
copyright holder decides to use patents, instead of copyright, to limit
your freedoms. In short:

      * If party A releases software, and in some maner prevents you
        from excercising your DFSG-freedoms, then that software is not
        DFSG-free. It doesn't matter if that manner is copyright,
        patent, or the mafia.
      * If party A releases software, and allows you all your
        DFSG-freedoms but an unrelated party B does not allow you to
        modify it to, e.g., play DVDs, party A's software is still free.

To put it yet another way, you can't use patents as an end-run around
freeness.

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